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Feb 9 2009 03:56pm
Akrane пусть идет нахуй
AjaxVS или прибалтов поддерживай, уже параноей страдаеш по поводу россии, в любых бедах ее обвиняеш.
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Feb 9 2009 05:07pm
Quote (AjaxVS @ Mon, 9 Feb 2009, 22:20)
Akrane, most ppl from this subforum just hate you because your opinion about WorldWar2 and still remember your posts @ May, 8-9th.
so you're not welcome here, sry.

хотя я его позицию разделяю и пох.


Ah, well the good thing is only idiots don't change their minds.

I've lived and spent a lot of time with Russians recently, and I am starting to learn Russian, etc.

You on the other side have not changed I can see...

This post was edited by Akrane on Feb 9 2009 05:07pm
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Feb 9 2009 05:44pm
Quote (Akrane @ Tue, 10 Feb 2009, 01:07)
Ah, well the good thing is only idiots don't change their minds.

I've lived and spent a lot of time with Russians recently, and I am starting to learn Russian, etc.

You on the other side have not changed I can see...


If i call your mother a whore, how easily and fast will you forgive me for that. Take under your cosideration, that i will not apologize, like you didn't.
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Feb 10 2009 12:22am
Quote (AjaxVS @ Mon, Feb 9 2009, 08:50pm)
да тут бестолку обсуждать что-то.
в том плане, что русские солдаты тоже убивали, грабили и насиловали на территориях, отвоеванных у Германии в 1943-45 гг.
об этом Arkane и говорил 9 мая.


Лично свидетелем был? И, конечно же, это сразу же делает немецких освободителей белыми и пушистыми? Которые несли факел демократии дремучим русским? Тебе лет сколько?
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Feb 10 2009 01:24am
Насколько я помню у него жена из Латвии, поэтому и взгляд на вторую мировую растет оттуда. Если бы он просто порассуждал, то еще ничего, но срал он прилично и новый топик в блогах поднимал не раз и не два..

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Пиз..щих что он нормальный чувак, отсылаю к его блогам: http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?act=Blogs&i=162884

This post was edited by pavlika on Feb 10 2009 01:30am
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Quote (Akrane @ Mon, 9 Feb 2009, 21:24)
Menja zovut Thibault. Mne davkat chetyre' let.

Ja hochu zanjat'sja russkim jazykom smile.gif vy mozhete mne pomoch' ?

Govorite medlenno.

k ?

naxyi idi
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Feb 10 2009 03:38am
Quote (Vogan @ Mon, 9 Feb 2009, 23:06)
Всё понятно, у тебя просто наивное и утопическое представление о войне. Война это не пикник. Все человеческие чувства на войне выражаютса во много раз интенсивнее чем во время мира.
Убёш ты моево родственника, будь уверен што обичной местью здесь не закончитса. К тому же, когда почувствуеш вкус крови, остановитса после етово очень сложно.

Да и к тому же, нельзя всё красить на белое и чёрное. Не всё так просто.


War is maybe not black and white but it's still the way your government tried to make it look like that's all.

I'm not saying it's your fault. Stop being such an idiot. All I was saying is that while Germany has recognized the jewish massacres, and has apologized to Israel and the world, while France and the Vatican have recognized the errors of colonization, AND even further back in time, they have recognized the errors in the Crusades, 700 years ago against the Arabs. Russia has never ever recognized the errors of their way, and NO Russian government has ever apologized to the countries that have suffered under USSR.

That being said, I have wrote a blog, I see Pavlika pulled it out and posted it here. Some stupid things were said in it, more like jokes sometimes.

But the first post, the main one, doesn't say Russia is an evil country.

It describes the political game between Russia and the rest of Europe, in regards to energy etc. It was calling for a discussion about the way Russia has been abusing of its' energetic ressources to dominate the countries around it etc. You can't say it's not true.

And Vladimir Putin, I've personally met him twice. Once at a conference in Moscow, where Alexis II was there, last year before he died. It was a very interesting conference about the Orthodox Synod and its' position inside the Russian protocol, and the ideas it had for the future of Russia. It was pretty scary, I'm just being honest. It wasn"t reassuring at all for the rest of the world.
Second time I met him was on a personal matter. He's a "business friend" of my dad, I met him in Azerbaijan, had dinner with him and my family etc. He's a very very nice man. Very charismatic. Very powerful in words, very proud. As a friend, he's a really good person. As a leader, I can understand why so many people follow him, he's so deep and has a lot of charisma.

That doesn't change anything to the fact that he's a pretty scary man for the rest of the world, and if you were standing in the shoes of France, UK, US, Spain, Germany, or any of the ex USSR countries, you would understand why Russia looks really scary.

That being said, I have done a lot of business with Russians recently, and have come to see that I was wrong, not everyone is like I thought they were.
Like I said, only idiots don't change their minds. But only idiots change it completely too, I still believe lots of things are not normal in Russia, but that's my own point of view.

Now you can be a complete retard, and stay blocked on your positions, or you can speak Russian with me, not in cyrilic alphabet.

Simple.

Quote (AjaxVS @ Mon, 9 Feb 2009, 22:50)
да тут бестолку обсуждать что-то.
дело в национальных приоритетах, вбиваемых с самого детства.
русские никогда не изменят своей позиции насчет "солдат Советской Армии - героических освободителях". в том плане, что русские солдаты тоже убивали, грабили и насиловали на территориях, отвоеванных у Германии в 1943-45 гг.
вы никогда не поймете, почему поляки и прибалты вас так люто ненавидят.
об этом Arkane и говорил 9 мая.


Yes I spoke, out of the heat of the moment.

This post was edited by Akrane on Feb 10 2009 03:39am
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Feb 10 2009 03:55am
i dont see your apologies here smile.gif

This post was edited by corgan on Feb 10 2009 03:55am
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Quote (corgan @ Tue, 10 Feb 2009, 11:55)
i dont see your apologies here smile.gif


I've said more than once that I have changed the way I used to think in many ways even though I still thought some things weren't right.

But if it needs to be said : I apologize for the shocking remarks I might have had towards Russians in general, it was wrong of me to make generalities out of a few singular cases.

That said, I'm sure as hell not going to apologize for criticizing the whole WW2 propaganda. There's a whole difference between apologizing for criticizing people who live today that you actually don't know much about and you just insult them without knowing (and that's just not right), and apologizing for criticizing something that happened 40 years ago and that has been proven in all history books.
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Feb 10 2009 06:20am
Вообщем нам как всегда предлагают покаяться во всех грехах и признать то, что мы виноваты во всех бедах.

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В Африке от голода ежегодно умирает около 6 миллионов детей - так, к сведению..

This post was edited by pavlika on Feb 10 2009 06:25am
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