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Mar 16 2010 03:28pm
Quote (Lugalzagesi)
Бронирование номеров онлайн.
Я стараюсь, чтобы забронировать номер онлайн с пару моих друзей
sorry, but it's almost impossible in Ukraine :( noone will guarantee room for you even if you'll pay more. i tryed to do this last year in Crimea so i know what i'm talking about.
just go there in due time and try to make deal. but don't think "Ukraine is poor country so rooms are cheap". Spending time near Black Sea is even more expensive than in Egypt for example.
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большинство из номеров, как в десяти минутах ходьбы от Казантип.
prepare ~75$ per day for bad room..

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Я хотел бы узнать некоторые основные русских фраз и поездки Советы при посещении Украины.
we all know Russian. you don't need to know Ukrainian ;) but 95% of Crimean don't know English :( dunno what advices.. trust noone, it's horrible county :D
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Mar 16 2010 04:00pm
Quote (Qadafi @ Mar 16 2010 02:28pm)
эй, я не Аякс, хорош троллить :(


Прошу прощения за мою ошибку

Quote (noblepirate @ Mar 16 2010 02:33pm)
Эвил, ну ты ответил, а чел решил что ты решил помочь. Не знает языка и не знает что русские спамеры пишут даже там где их не просят :)


Прости, что я не понимаю этого :( Жаль, что я знал некоторые Русский

Quote (MANS0N @ Mar 16 2010 03:32pm)
Кстати,вся украина говорит на русском?Или же есть такие,кто его там не знает?


Я только что проверил <<Wikipedia.org>> . и выяснил, что языком в Украине является не русский, это моя ошибка жаль. Я только что услышал Казантип, что важно знать, как немецкий, английский или русский я подумал, что было бы легче узнать немного русский, а не немецкий.

Quote (maniak_capatob @ Mar 16 2010 03:43pm)
знают все . но на западе русских недолюбливают...


Я думаю, это означает, что вы знаете все, кроме ненависти западной части России. По крайней мере это то, что говорил переводчик. Это круто я думаю.

Quote (russian @ Mar 16 2010 03:46pm)
That English -> Russian translator is actually really good. A couple minor errors, of course, but very coherent and easy to understand.


Thank you I am glad that it shall suffice. I'm just basically looking for opinions on how to find cheap rooms and learning some important russian phrases. I have read on multiple websites and forums that you can get some rooms for 10-15 euros a day without a/c and just a shower with like 6 beds (which is good enough for me).

Quote (corgan @ Mar 16 2010 04:03pm)
tpuaga uje skachal perevodchik i pmnul useru :D?


Sorry I do not know which language this is. It will not work in the translator.

Quote (AjaxVS @ Mar 16 2010 04:28pm)
sorry, but it's almost impossible in Ukraine :( noone will guarantee room for you even if you'll pay more. i tryed to do this last year in Crimea so i know what i'm talking about.
just go there in due time and try to make deal. but don't think "Ukraine is poor country so rooms are cheap". Spending time near Black Sea is even more expensive than in Egypt for example.
prepare ~75$ per day for bad room..

we all know Russian. you don't need to know Ukrainian ;) but 95% of Crimean don't know English :( dunno what advices.. trust noone, it's horrible county :D


I was on kazantip.com and found their rates were 340 euros for 14 nights. The festival is 30 days, I have no idea why they are not able to book rooms for the whole 30 days. So I looked around online and read some people's comments who went in 2009 and they said that they were able to get the locals to help them out for like 40 euros to negotiate a price for them with the hotel staff to get just a basic room for 10-15 euros a night. I am just wanting to know if this still holds true because paying 340 euros for fourteen days is not what I had in mind. I know the viZa is like 120-160 euros and that is not a problem just finding a room for the whole festival is the important thing for me to find. I heard there are cheap rooms like that in Popivka and Myrnyi

Furthermore I would like to know some handy Russian phrases that could help my friends and I, like where is the bathroom, etc. Simple stuff that we should know. How to order a drink in Russian and so on. The cultural norms on tipping bartenders and such.

and did you mean $75 per person per day or per "room" like if we take up the whole does it cost us all collectively $75 per day.

Thank you for your time I look forward to hearing back from you,

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Mar 16 2010 04:23pm
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340 euros for fourteen days is not what I had in mind.
omg, man, 340e/14days (~25e/day) - that's insane cheap! it can't be truth. well, maybe you can get such offers but rooms will be situated in ~45 min from sea / festival.

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and did you mean $75 per person per day or per "room" like if we take up the whole does it cost us all collectively $75 per day.
per room per day. no matter how many people will live there (ex: 3 persons pay 25$ each).

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Furthermore I would like to know some handy Russian phrases that could help my friends and I, like where is the bathroom, etc.
maybe you should try to talk via skype with someone who know russian.. 'cuz it's hard to explain how to read russian words on forum ^^
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Mar 16 2010 04:24pm
"tpuaga uje skachal perevodchik i pmnul useru :D?"
That's what we call "translit". It's when you use the Latin alphabet to phonetically spell Russian words. If you read it out the way you would an English word, it would sound very close to the Russian word he's phonetically spelling. It's mostly used by people who either don't have a Russian keyboard or type much faster using the QWERTY keyboard (such as me). If you want to try and translate that, you could use www.translit.ru. It will convert that into real Russian written in Cyrillic and then you can translate into English, but it won't always work due to misspellings and such.

I can help you some basic phrases and such, if you want, but it would probably be easier to just write them down and show them to people than try and memorize. Especially since pronunciation would be very hard to get right without having someone speak it out to you properly. And as far as writing them down, your translator would work just fine, I think. It may be a little off here and there, but it's very easy to understand and most sentences are perfect Russian.
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Mar 16 2010 04:57pm
Quote (AjaxVS @ Mar 16 2010 05:23pm)
omg, man, 340e/14days (~25e/day) - that's insane cheap! it can't be truth. well, maybe you can get such offers but rooms will be situated in ~45 min from sea / festival.

per room per day. no matter how many people will live there (ex: 3 persons pay 25$ each).

maybe you should try to talk via skype with someone who know russian.. 'cuz it's hard to explain how to read russian words on forum ^^


Do you think there are rooms in Popivka and Myrnyi that are $75 dollars a day? I would much rather pay the $75 to be ten minutes away instead of 45 minutes away. I am planning on about me and 5 of my mates so about 13 dollars per person. I have a skype and an aim account if anyone wants to go through that avenue, unfortunately though I do not have my webcam up. Just private message me and I can give you my accountname.

I also bought a copy online of Rosetta Stone for Beginner's Russian and will be casually taking out some free time in my day to learn the language so maybe then I could say some of the phrases without offending anyone.

Thank you for your help thus far,
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Quote (russian @ Mar 16 2010 05:24pm)
"tpuaga uje skachal perevodchik i pmnul useru :D?"
That's what we call "translit". It's when you use the Latin alphabet to phonetically spell Russian words. If you read it out the way you would an English word, it would sound very close to the Russian word he's phonetically spelling. It's mostly used by people who either don't have a Russian keyboard or type much faster using the QWERTY keyboard (such as me). If you want to try and translate that, you could use www.translit.ru. It will convert that into real Russian written in Cyrillic and then you can translate into English, but it won't always work due to misspellings and such.

I can help you some basic phrases and such, if you want, but it would probably be easier to just write them down and show them to people than try and memorize. Especially since pronunciation would be very hard to get right without having someone speak it out to you properly. And as far as writing them down, your translator would work just fine, I think. It may be a little off here and there, but it's very easy to understand and most sentences are perfect Russian.


Yeah it would be appreciated if you can to help me on some phrases, I will try to think of a list of some instead of putting you on the spot like that lol. When I went to Italy before I had a paper with me that I would show so they could read it and then point me in the right direction.

Thank you again man,
Lugal
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