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Apr 15 2019 02:38pm
After a rewrite there's a problem with disconnects that can discourage us all from buying glyphs. I know some elite glyphers who are complaining about the huge decline in glyphing market. (BTW: I'm still willing to risk couple fg on a decent glyph anyway - so don't give up guys)!
Let's not discuss disconnects here. I was told there's not much we can do to about it the moment.

However,
There's another thing that just a minute ago came to my mind and I suppose was not intended - random glyphs that comes with totems.
This is a cool feature - don't get me wrong.
The problem is that the effects are random and when you equip a glyph you want to plan ahead since the effects from regular glyphs cannot stack.
Totem glyphs can stuck (the same mod on top of another). But they prevent you to equip your regular glyph...
that you need so much in some cases...

I strongly believe this is something that can and should be fixed.

Thank you in advance.

P.S. Feel free to answer the poll attached here.

This post was edited by mastodont on Apr 15 2019 03:01pm
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Apr 15 2019 07:19pm
To me the best fix should be an option of force-removing existing glyphs (from totem or actual glyphs) which I was always surprised wasn’t there. If you allow people to stack glyphs onto each other, people will abuse it to the furthest extent possible. I’m not sure if there is enough concern over this for a change to be necessitated though... this is something affecting me personally, but I doubt there are many people who are really suffering, and even though this has been a problem, I’m really enjoying the emblems, so that I’d rather have them causing me this problem than not having them at all... :)
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Apr 15 2019 09:34pm
Quote (BWConformity @ 15 Apr 2019 19:19)
To me the best fix should be an option of force-removing existing glyphs (from totem or actual glyphs) which I was always surprised wasn’t there. If you allow people to stack glyphs onto each other, people will abuse it to the furthest extent possible. I’m not sure if there is enough concern over this for a change to be necessitated though... this is something affecting me personally, but I doubt there are many people who are really suffering, and even though this has been a problem, I’m really enjoying the emblems, so that I’d rather have them causing me this problem than not having them at all... :)


I swear you used to be able to remove it by ctrl clicking it or something. I must be losing my mind but I have a pretty clear memory of it a while back and thinking “why the hell would I ever remove a buff?” I think that was back when the town still had a white background. Right near the start of skills.

This post was edited by Cheeya on Apr 15 2019 09:36pm
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Apr 15 2019 09:48pm
This is not a "poke the bear" comment.

Simple answer is simple... don't use the "Emblem" at all if it is a concern of yours. If you have pre-planned the use of the glyphs you have bought/made, then it would be commonsense to just use those and not the "Emblem" glyphs.

I guess solo would make this easier to comply with, as for group runs, most just whistle so far and don't have a pre-planned glyph setup, so they would normally use the Emblem, then the other answer is to do what they did in the past, a glypher in the group will state that they are going to use glyphs on them during the run, this way the other players can comply with not using the "Emblem" in the exploring stage of their run.

I have played full climbs without using "Emblem" and using them, I don't have issues in the run either way.
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Apr 16 2019 04:28am
Thanks for the answers - I guess we have 3x NO so far, I guess :)
Quote (BWConformity @ 16 Apr 2019 03:19)
To me the best fix should be an option of force-removing existing glyphs (from totem or actual glyphs) which I was always surprised wasn’t there. If you allow people to stack glyphs onto each other, people will abuse it to the furthest extent possible. I’m not sure if there is enough concern over this for a change to be necessitated though... this is something affecting me personally, but I doubt there are many people who are really suffering, and even though this has been a problem, I’m really enjoying the emblems, so that I’d rather have them causing me this problem than not having them at all... :)

I agree with you. There could be new strategies too OP - call them exploits if you will, that would be even more unintended. I had this concerns - hence the discussion and the poll.
I can see two simple workarounds to this problem (actually 3 - you added the 3rd):
1. You could still use your glyph but only some of the mods from your glyph would add - the properties that don't exist on emblem glyph would add and work - the rest would be lost.
2. You could still use your glyph, all mods would add but there would be cap on each of them - like max str, max dex, crits, etc.
3. You could clear emblem glyph without having to disconnect <- just like you have suggested.
Quote (izParagonzi @ 16 Apr 2019 05:48)
This is not a "poke the bear" comment. Simple answer is simple... don't use the "Emblem" at all if it is a concern of yours. If you have pre-planned the use of the glyphs you have bought/made, then it would be commonsense to just use those and not the "Emblem" glyphs. I guess solo would make this easier to comply with, as for group runs, most just whistle so far and don't have a pre-planned glyph setup, so they would normally use the Emblem, then the other answer is to do what they did in the past, a glypher in the group will state that they are going to use glyphs on them during the run, this way the other players can comply with not using the "Emblem" in the exploring stage of their run. I have played full climbs without using "Emblem" and using them, I don't have issues in the run either way.

1. I don't think most groups still whistle this days. My experience of last 3 months is quite the opposite. The party games are the least problematic though. You can always log out and in from LS to remove emblem glyph(s) and join your party again (and keep the map).
2. Emblems are great. So I love to use them even in solo games. Sometimes I find sneaky or another quest or just 3 EPs on higher levels and I want to use my glyph to buff critical strike, life steal, strength, etc. but there's another useless property on my glyph that just also happens to be on emblem glyph... That is the case I was thinking of from the beginning.

This post was edited by mastodont on Apr 16 2019 04:32am
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1. I don't think most groups still whistle this days. My experience of last 3 months is quite the opposite. The party games are the least problematic though. You can always log out and in from LS to remove emblem glyph(s) and join your party again (and keep the map).
2. Emblems are great. So I love to use them even in solo games. Sometimes I find sneaky or another quest or just 3 EPs on higher levels and I want to use my glyph to buff critical strike, life steal, strength, etc. but there's another useless property on my glyph that just also happens to be on emblem glyph... That is the case I was thinking of from the beginning.


Then your alternate answer is simple, use your glyph before you use an Emblem.

I null voted because I don't find an issue with the Emblem, nor do I use glyphs and they don't drop me from game.
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Apr 17 2019 01:28pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Apr 16 2019 06:47am)
Then your alternate answer is simple, use your glyph before you use an Emblem.

I null voted because I don't find an issue with the Emblem, nor do I use glyphs and they don't drop me from game.



Did you seriously tell someone to kill himself?

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=80940074&f=272&p=544659008#p544659008
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Null vote... personally you could have left this with your relatives to display outcome or you could just sit it out and do the procedure without feeling sorry for yourself.

Harsh? No, simple truth... Vicki didn't display this crap beforehand, and Buf had no say in his accident... so go look in the fucking mirror and slit your wrists vertically on both arms
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Apr 17 2019 09:13pm
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No I didn't, look at what I wrote, you seem to have the correct wording right there.

You should have left this alone with your last PM to me.
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Apr 17 2019 11:45pm
Guys this is nuts and off topic. I don't know why among all the places you chose to pummel here but that thing cannot continue.
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Apr 18 2019 07:53am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Apr 17 2019 11:13pm)
No I didn't, look at what I wrote, you seem to have the correct wording right there.

You should have left this alone with your last PM to me.


Wow. Just wow. You are sick sick sick sick sick sick. SICK!!! You are NOT welcome in this community! You belong in a mental hospital!!!

Quote (mastodont @ Apr 18 2019 01:45am)
Guys this is nuts and off topic. I don't know why among all the places you chose to pummel here but that thing cannot continue.


That evil man needs to stop posting here like everything's normal and fine.
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