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Dec 31 2022 04:26am
I think it would benefit both people climbing and people buying from the market and skilling to allow any amount of items listed

currently if someone is playing alot, they can saturate their market and are unable to list everything they have, having to store the items in the vault or other characters

this is bad since instead of just having to list the item, which is already clunky having to enter the gold password every time, you need to first store the item, then monitor market to see if anything sells, and if it does you can slowly list your backlog

this makes it hard in particular to sell skillables that are only temporarily required by someone, like level 10,15 items, they are easier to find so you can fill up your market with them, but if the person buying isn't online, or processing them slower than people put it up, it can clog up your market and the only solution is to search for each item one by one to buy it back from yourself (another improvement would be to be able to drag items from the sell tab to inventory to buy them back)

what I'm proposing is clear from the poll, could keep current system of having 50 or so cheap items listable without a fee, but enable people to continue to list cheap items by paying the fee upfront, let me know what you think!
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Dec 31 2022 04:49am
Nope. Because then store gets flooded with more junk that will probably never sell.
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Dec 31 2022 04:54am
Quote (CARTRACK @ Dec 31 2022 10:49am)
Nope. Because then store gets flooded with more junk that will probably never sell.


why is that a problem? You can use the filter to look for what you want, can you explain what kind of item you can't buy because of all the junk listed?
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Dec 31 2022 06:56am
This will shroud all the actual usable gear with horseshit that new players and randoms will just find and put up in hopes someone will eventually bite.
But the market will be full of crap that shouldn't even exist still.
This idea will flood the market and make it even less pleasurable to use than it already is.

This post was edited by Outraged on Dec 31 2022 06:56am
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This will shroud all the actual usable gear with horseshit that new players and randoms will just find and put up in hopes someone will eventually bite.
But the market will be full of crap that shouldn't even exist still.
This idea will flood the market and make it even less pleasurable to use than it already is.


I don't understand how anything would be shrouded, people could put up 10000 tier 1 magical items, if you're looking for angelic+ level 15 muteables, you would filter for that and find them.
Only problem I see are maps or rods but that should just get fixed so the filter changes to the map attributes, and have a durability one for rods.
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Dec 31 2022 07:35am
No.

I do not want to pay a Fee for 1-5 fg items and they are not bought in the days allocated and they go to 0 on the MP and I have to reset them and pay another fee. If a person wants to re-list items without paying a fee, they have to do it within the 7 days... so if they expire, I have to pay fee again. Pointless and worthless for 1 - 5 fg items.
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Dec 31 2022 07:41am
I can understand the interest in it but agree w others that the limit is very helpful for a number of reasons.

I do wish you could pay the fee for 20+ items AFTER they are sold rather than before. This would encourage others to actually post strong items without fear of losing the fee to list.
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Dec 31 2022 08:39am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Dec 31 2022 01:35pm)
No.

I do not want to pay a Fee for 1-5 fg items and they are not bought in the days allocated and they go to 0 on the MP and I have to reset them and pay another fee. If a person wants to re-list items without paying a fee, they have to do it within the 7 days... so if they expire, I have to pay fee again. Pointless and worthless for 1 - 5 fg items.


You could stick to the current limit then and not worry about it, why be against something that would be beneficial for others and don't impact you?

For me it would be great if I could list all the items that sell for a certain value but generally slower than others, like 20-25 whites, low level muteable iso's, 35 magical+, etc.

Now once my vault and characters fill, I have to either stop playing, shrine/toss items, sell items at a discount to get rid of faster, expand vault.. if the purpose for this feature is to force people to expand vaults, I understand from the designer's perspective, not sure why you guys as players are for it, seems stupid to me to have a game where it is inconvenient to play alot.

Quote (Dotaronomy @ Dec 31 2022 01:41pm)
I can understand the interest in it but agree w others that the limit is very helpful for a number of reasons.

I do wish you could pay the fee for 20+ items AFTER they are sold rather than before. This would encourage others to actually post strong items without fear of losing the fee to list.


Can you list the reasons? Others didn't provide anything just claimed it would clutter up the market, which is already cluttered if you don't filter for anything, so I don't see how that's a valid point.

Problem with your suggestion is people could use the market as storage, listing shitty items at a high price. They could implement an auction though, with deadline and bin prices without having to use the forum.

This post was edited by jakestrong on Dec 31 2022 08:40am
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You could stick to the current limit then and not worry about it, why be against something that would be beneficial for others and don't impact you?

For me it would be great if I could list all the items that sell for a certain value but generally slower than others, like 20-25 whites, low level muteable iso's, 35 magical+, etc.

Now once my vault and characters fill, I have to either stop playing, shrine/toss items, sell items at a discount to get rid of faster, expand vault.. if the purpose for this feature is to force people to expand vaults, I understand from the designer's perspective, not sure why you guys as players are for it, seems stupid to me to have a game where it is inconvenient to play alot.



Can you list the reasons? Others didn't provide anything just claimed it would clutter up the market, which is already cluttered if you don't filter for anything, so I don't see how that's a valid point.

Problem with your suggestion is people could use the market as storage, listing shitty items at a high price. They could implement an auction though, with deadline and bin prices without having to use the forum.



You have 69 posts so yeah technically you are very brand new at this game. I think most people here have given you valid reasons why your suggestion does not work. If your items are not selling or they sitting in the market too long then they are either too expensive or of no interest for anyone to buy. No point in putting on more useless junk. Welcome to supply vs demand and quickly you will learn what items have some value and which do not.
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Dec 31 2022 09:03am
Quote (CARTRACK @ Dec 31 2022 02:49pm)
You have 69 posts so yeah technically you are very brand new at this game. I think most people here have given you valid reasons why your suggestion does not work. If your items are not selling or they sitting in the market too long then they are either too expensive or of no interest for anyone to buy. No point in putting on more useless junk. Welcome to supply vs demand and quickly you will learn what items have some value and which do not.


I'm not stupid I'm talking about items that would sell well within a week's time (even though you still didn't explain why would it be a problem if they don't sell for anyone but the person listing it by losing the fee)

I'll give you an example: You and NL-Joeri has posts up asking for level 15-20 magical+ items. Lets say I start a climb and you are both offline, I use up all my slots for level 15-20 items that don't sell, and am stuck with all the level 40+ magical+, and 30+ whites that would sell, because the 15-20's take up my slots. Now I can either pay for vault for no reason, stop playing until one of you comes online to buy them, or painfully go item by item and buy them back from myself, to clear my own market, to list the rest of the items that sell faster

This post was edited by jakestrong on Dec 31 2022 09:05am
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