oh wait, its always sucked!
Lets try making it decent at least?

I am currently rank 15 on HC and will likely not be able to continue much further..

Right now i get ~12 prof from merging t4 rares, i cannot pass t5s
So i would need 2,000 t4 rare essences for next rank. I get 8-10 from doing magicals to rare
The next rank i would need to do myst+ and theres no way i can mute that many to merge. I would then be getting 2-3 prof to merge from mag-rare. 5-6 to merge from rare-myst

Use Fish you say, well i play HC and there are no fish available!

TLDR:

Increase the prof you get from merging!!!

or

Make merging essences instant if you no longer get prof from it

In my opinion suffing is in a good spot... The merging and the EE especially on comfreys is very very good

If there is a skill that needs a Buff it's glyphing

i can tell you know from experience
Just because nic put a ton of time into leveling his skill doesnt mean the skill is in a good spot

maybe add the option to merge multiple essences at once?

This post was edited by LabattBlue on Sep 8 2022 10:23am

I vote "Null"

I have from the start of playing LS to even this day think that glyphing skill is a waste of time... remember, I am just pointing out my opinion about a Glyph or an Emblem (free glyph) as a CONSUMABLE item... basically, you have the skill to make a consumable item at a great level of achievement, BUT... the item is ONLY consumable.

Want another definition of "CONSUMABLE" ... so take a high priced and revolutionized block of ICE ... once the Ice has been defrosted... it is just a puddle of water... or evaporates to air and doesn't benefit the player after that.

OKAY... enough of the crap above... glyphing is a great skill to have... how do you make it enticing for people to Glyph?

That is your question and I don't have an immediate answer.

Hopefully other people will bring up ideas, and with open minds, some correlation will create a better answer to your queswtion.

Ignore above... even though they are similar.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Sep 8 2022 12:20pm

I am aware of the calculations Matthias did back in UA on how fast you can level up suffing. When you are willing to invest you can climb up in the blink of an eye.

And you don't have to go very far to make it very useful. A stack of 200% EE Tier III comfreys does much more than even a 30 Int glyph in MM for example.

Getting your glyphing that far is like 1.000.000 time spend compared to suffing

I have to admit that I am lost with the first post by OP (John being a glypher on HC). ... I thought it was about Glyphing even though the stipulation (reference) was Suffuscensing.

The stupidist thing about Suff... is having to use "Essences"

For fuck sake... just use the Essence for Transmute ... it is not rocket science... you have to skill in Transmute to get Essences RIGHT? am I wrong?

Why the fuck are you going to waste time on Transmuting when you want to work on Suffusencing skill? For Fudge Sake ... blah blah blah etc.

I think all of them need to be changed so that it doesn’t take soooo long to be able to fish/mute/suffusuck lvl 55 and this way people can maybe max out muting/siffusucking/glyphing together to make some amazing glyphs

I also nulled

This post was edited by CARTRACK on Sep 8 2022 12:37pm

If I could abort my way any further I would trust me!
How do mana comfrey help more than int? I have stacks of suffd useless comfrey on hc
I glyph to help the mediocre gear issue on hc. I suff to help glyphs. Then the merge essence update came out I liked it. Just needs tweaking

Wow what a great response I am with you

You already need to mute for essences, might as well fish for it too lol

Think I talked about no essence use for suffing before the merging essences update, but it's hard to balance it. If you can get anything between the min and max value possible with no essence, that's 125% ee on average which you get "for free". Guess that becomes OP if you invest enough time, because a stack of 500 life trout could be suffed to 1125, a stack of 1000 pike to 2.25 k ( you'd need rank 35 suffing though ). Or we can lower the max ee possible to 100%, so you get 55% on average I think, but then you can no longer suff glyphs/comfrey to 200%+.

That's the only way to make suffing easy to progress though, if you need essences for it, it will always be cancer to get above rank 20. Its a skill you're not meant to get high easily I guess.

Massively boosting the essence merge prof can work, but it would have to make the skill as slow as muting. Pointless spending 3 minutes to make 2 magical essences to rare or rare to mystical etc.