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Aug 10 2022 04:05am
Thinking of doing some death farm but I have some questions

Whats the best lvl to aim for (why?)? Im thinking lvl 60 but idk

When I see profiles of yours about best drops etc things like underspawn, overspawn, nmnmnm are mentioned. What are those? I guess its something I should grasp going for a dedicated grind

Is it profitable doing wells without any magic luck gear? What does ML do? If I find an EE item, does ml increase the chance of having higher ml? Or is it more like mf in Diablo II?
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Aug 10 2022 05:19am
Quote (Cenderze @ Aug 10 2022 06:05am)
Thinking of doing some death farm but I have some questions

Whats the best lvl to aim for (why?)? Im thinking lvl 60 but idk

When I see profiles of yours about best drops etc things like underspawn, overspawn, nmnmnm are mentioned. What are those? I guess its something I should grasp going for a dedicated grind

Is it profitable doing wells without any magic luck gear? What does ML do? If I find an EE item, does ml increase the chance of having higher ml? Or is it more like mf in Diablo II?


Level 64 always seemed to be the golden number for death farming. Highest chance of finding max tier, while limiting monster difficulty.
Unspawns are no longer spawnable, these were items that could spawn any amount of one stat on any tier item back in the early days of the game.
All items these days have the ability to spawn up to 1 tier over their maximum. For example, max EE for a level 15 item is 120, but with magic luck, you have a small chance of increasing that cap to 140.
I personally feel like I'm wasting potential when I well without ML, but that's just me. Who knows how much it actually helps. Again, ML increases the chance of spawning up to 1 tier over the normal cap.

This post was edited by BwJ on Aug 10 2022 05:20am
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Aug 10 2022 06:43am
I sit right at 59 with mine usually. 55 if I plan to do a bunch of wells.
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Aug 10 2022 07:24am
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=85360403&f=74 this might help... or send pms to on it
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Aug 10 2022 10:14am
58 to 66 is a good range to look at level wise
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Thanks for answer all!

I saw in the guide mentioned above to get 90-100 vita and pref as a rogue for the traps.. fml may need to mq and reroll after all

Anyone gotten any sweet item (1k+ fgs) from death farming without spending a ton in ml gear, or buying wellables
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Thanks for answer all!

I saw in the guide mentioned above to get 90-100 vita and pref as a rogue for the traps.. fml may need to mq and reroll after all

Anyone gotten any sweet item (1k+ fgs) from death farming without spending a ton in ml gear, or buying wellables



no ml gear.

7/29/22 - sold vs 1300
Random monster
Rare runewood club
Level Req: 20
Damage: 45 to 205

+140% Enhanced Effect
+257 Max Mana



8/9/22 - sold vs 3500
Ep Level 58
Magical ultimanium axe
Level Req: 55
Damage: 386 to 463

+142% Enhanced Effect
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Aug 11 2022 10:12am
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Thanks for answer all!

I saw in the guide mentioned above to get 90-100 vita and pref as a rogue for the traps.. fml may need to mq and reroll after all

Anyone gotten any sweet item (1k+ fgs) from death farming without spending a ton in ml gear, or buying wellables


I run around 70-75 base vitality. It's enough to live through 3 wave EPs but not so much that it takes forever for you to die.

I've always used at least a little ML, I'm not a 20+ ML guy but I run between 4-15 at any given time. I've found my fair share of items but don't think ML has too much to do with it. I use it for the chance of overspawns.
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