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Apr 24 2020 02:09am
Started this project late last year and decided now to share some of the numbers.



Keep in mind a few things:

The numbers listed are strictly Tier 3.
95%+ of these items were stripped with 34+ Magic Luck (I personally don't believe this affects stripping essences at all)
I'm sharing these numbers so anyone interested in Transmuting realizes it's not worth it.

I was originally planning on waiting until my sample size was 1000 or higher but I don't really care anymore.

Based on this sample size:
Your chances of getting an Arcane Essence back from stripping an Arcane Item are roughly 15.8%
Your chances of getting a Legendary Essence back from stripping a Legendary Item are roughly 13.8%
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Apr 24 2020 02:20am
to me it looks like an even chance for any quality to get back. so for unique its 1/12 for any quality, for mythical it would be 1/5.

Keep in mind, that the randomizer used seems to tend to bulk events, which only evens out at high numbers.

This post was edited by derDrops on Apr 24 2020 02:22am
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Apr 24 2020 08:58pm
Quote (derDrops @ Apr 23 2020 10:20pm)
to me it looks like an even chance for any quality to get back. so for unique its 1/12 for any quality, for mythical it would be 1/5.

Keep in mind, that the randomizer used seems to tend to bulk events, which only evens out at high numbers.


Exactly as my testing has seemed to indicate as well. Even the bit about random numbers in this game haha. I never strip essences with ML since my early testing with tier I and II essences when I first started muting 4 years ago showed even chance for each number of properties between 1 and the magical level of the item muted. I’m sure with enough samples, you would reach ~16.67% chance for arcane essence out of arcane and ~14.29% chance for legendary essence out of legendary (1/6 and 1/7 respectively) regardless of how much ML were used.

This post was edited by BWConformity on Apr 24 2020 08:59pm
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Apr 24 2020 09:41pm
I turned all of my t2 glyphs at the arcane level into essences and ended up with stacks of 65 each +/- 5.

Can confirm that you have a 1 in however many stats the item has to get the same essence back.
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Apr 25 2020 10:20am
Thanks for sharing. Was a bit curious about this.
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Apr 25 2020 12:27pm
good to know nice study :) :thumbsup: :hail: :banana: :bouncy:
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Apr 26 2020 09:04am
Very well put together. Thanks for doing this, great information.

It is sad that spending hours of hunting for items then breaking them down into essences are have such little chance of getting back the same quality item.

It definitely needs some adjustments, hopefully Paul will see this and make proper adjustments to make it more worth our time. It would also be cool if the rate at which we broke items down and rerolled was speed up some. Would be nice! Has so much potential here.

This post was edited by iToons on Apr 26 2020 09:05am
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Apr 26 2020 09:57am
Maybe there can be an event where the chance is cut in half for essence strip? Arcane being 1/6 is now 1/3..
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Apr 27 2020 07:06am
Quote (iToons @ 26 Apr 2020 11:04)
Very well put together. Thanks for doing this, great information.

It is sad that spending hours of hunting for items then breaking them down into essences are have such little chance of getting back the same quality item.

It definitely needs some adjustments, hopefully Paul will see this and make proper adjustments to make it more worth our time. It would also be cool if the rate at which we broke items down and rerolled was speed up some. Would be nice! Has so much potential here.


I'm assuming Paul knows this since he had to program in the probabilities. I would be okay if he changed it so that magic luck has an effect on rolling essences
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May 9 2020 01:05am
Bump for anyone who didn't see it.
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