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Dec 3 2018 07:42am
SC's best item list

this is a remake of the SC's best item list as the old list is highly outdated. Additionally we reviewed the rules to get the items on the list and we changed the list to feature a top 3.


rules
    1) a history link is mandatory
    2) owner is not mandatory, but if submitted ID is required
    3) banned accounts cannot enter any item
    4) people who are known to be passed away, cannot enter any item
    5) EE is capped at +20% per Tier, e.g. level 25 max EE count is 180, for additional rating rules see first slide
    6) If items are tied, a public vote will be done
    7) if there are more than 3 tied items, only Top 1 will be entered with a generic item (e.g. t3 heal charm 60ee)
    8) t1 and t2 for EE armor, charms, heal and weapons will not be entered
*note: rules may change, rating rules can be discussed about*

categories
    1) Melee
      - EE light weapons (sword, axe, dagger, staff, club)
      - EE heavy weapons (longsword, battleaxe, spear, polearm, warhammer)
      - EE armor (robe, padded robe, leather, scale, chain, plate)
      - dexterity (hh charm, charm (not hh), light armor, medium armor, heavy armor)
      - strength (hh charm, charm (not hh), light armor, medium armor, heavy armor)
      - dual stat (hh charm, charm (not hh), light armor, medium armor, heavy armor)


    2) Caster
      - EE charm (ice, fire, light, earth, wind)
      - EE heal (wild heal, heal, focussed heal)
      - int weapon (sword, axe, dagger, staff, club, any heavy)
      - int charm (hh charm, charm (not hh))
      - int armor (light armor, medium armor, heavy armor)

*note: additional categories might be added in the future*

how to submit entries

pm a history link and owner (if wanted) to one of the following people or post in this topic:

Format to submit:

Rare spiderthread robe
Level Req: 55
Physical Defense: 0 to 13
Magical Defense: 26 to 79

+64 Intelligence
+2% Mana Skin

https://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/itemHistory.php?i=14100742&c=0

Meridius - 372649



Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Al1-r37NrMEZg0E3vsdmsG9glvFYSRyCXysfVqkRFVI/edit?usp=sharing

PS: I want to see here no spam, drama and any toxic behaviour!
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Dec 3 2018 08:16am
So this is the available best in game list which excludes tons of "dead" items and it is only for enhanced effect or stat gear. So a best in game magic luck, ees, fishing rod, etc. won't be included?

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Quote (Bob888 @ 3 Dec 2018 15:16)
So this is the available best in game list which excludes tons of "dead" items and it is only for enhanced effect or stat gear. So a best in game magic luck, ees, fishing rod, etc. won't be included?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

it is like this. We discussed that and we agreed that gear, which is literally inaccessible should not be on the list. That is one of the reason why we demand a history link. We hope that this will tell us if an item has been deleted.

best ingame for ees gear would be tied on basically every tier, same goes for ML. But we can argue about it, if ppl want this listed, but I see the only purpose of these to just show of more unspawn/overspawn gear.
fishing rods actually get used, amount of update on these would be insane. But then again, discusss it, we can vote on it and is easy to add new slides
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Dec 3 2018 08:34am
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Dec 3 2018 08:39am
All valid points. What if you just did highest for each other random category instead of going by tiers so, highest % light mastery armor, highest heal mastery armor, weapon, etc, Highest % mana syphon armor weapon, quickdraw, etc. This would give people who don't have as much fg a chance to be on the list :D . It would also give more value to some items and maybe even bring in a collector's market.
Again, only referring to the top ones so that's 3 for each category :D . You could even make them worth half a point in comparison to the ee/stat gear best in game items.

Best in game known fishing rod meaning highest durability would be cool to see, not all random categories but some :D

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Quote (Bob888 @ 3 Dec 2018 15:39)
All valid points. What if you just did highest for each other random category instead of going by tiers so, highest % light mastery armor, highest heal mastery armor, weapon, etc, Highest % mana syphon armor weapon, quickdraw, etc. This would give people who don't have as much fg a chance to be on the list :D . It would also give more value to some items and maybe even bring in a collector's market.
Again, only referring to the top ones so that's 3 for each category :D . You could even make them worth half a point in comparison to the ee/stat gear best in game items.

Best in game known fishing rod meaning highest durability would be cool to see, not all random categories but some :D


if the community wants to have a best ingame category for each stats, just to be on the list, we can do that.
The reason why we didn't make that from the get go is, that we want items on the list that reflect the gameplay somewhat. That is also why int on heal charms is not rated yet, since they are used in acc slot for the majority of time
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Dec 3 2018 09:02am
Quote (Meridius @ Dec 3 2018 09:46am)
if the community wants to have a best ingame category for each stats, just to be on the list, we can do that.
The reason why we didn't make that from the get go is, that we want items on the list that reflect the gameplay somewhat. That is also why int on heal charms is not rated yet, since they are used in acc slot for the majority of time


The way you are putting it together it looks like it will be more like the "Some of the best in game items list". One issues always ran into some people dont want their items on the list (especially with owners name included) therefore the list will be very inaccurate. Also not adding items on afk players is counter productive considering if the items ever become ft you may never know as I already stated there are several people who hold 50+ BIG items who want no part of the list.
Just skimming through what you have a lot of owners are inaccurate. This because you can't factor in which items are loaned to some of these people.

This post was edited by PhiRip on Dec 3 2018 09:03am
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Quote (PhiRip @ Dec 3 2018 01:02pm)
The way you are putting it together it looks like it will be more like the "Some of the best in game items list". One issues always ran into some people dont want their items on the list (especially with owners name included) therefore the list will be very inaccurate. Also not adding items on afk players is counter productive considering if the items ever become ft you may never know as I already stated there are several people who hold 50+ BIG items who want no part of the list.
Just skimming through what you have a lot of owners are inaccurate. This because you can't factor in which items are loaned to some of these people.


A valid point. You would want all those stolen items with the id #s going public.


On a real note. This is actually a good thing. It's something that is relevant and is one more thing like the scandal sheet which keeps people interested in the game.

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Quote (Bob888 @ Dec 3 2018 10:11am)
A valid point. You would want all those stolen items with the id #s going public.


On a real note. This is actually a good thing. It's something that is relevant and is one more thing like the scandal sheet which keeps people interested in the game.


Look at you trying so hard. Sad little man
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Dec 3 2018 09:37am
There are ofc some things that can be wrong (owners, other items that are better, ...) so this is the topic to upgrade things. Many items are in the vaults and cant be seen.. other items are loaned out like you said.
So just post or pm any updates or corrections and the list can be fixed. We just wanted to make a start in some categories and update as we see stuff/stuff is posted here.
This list will grow over the time.

I wouldnt want to add categories like mana syphon or what not, as that would be a waste of time imo. (if there is anything that actually makes sense and is wanted by enough people and you guys post info, we can ofc add a new category)

Plz stop struggeling inside of this topic. Just make a blog.

This post was edited by ahs_darkhunter on Dec 3 2018 09:38am
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