Basically there is a cap on Enhanced Effect of 20%
If you have a Rank with 20 % and you use TierIII Item with 60% EE
... you are at Cap level... I want to remove the 20% EE cap... I.E.
Tier IV 80% ee, you have a Rank of 25 = 25% EE... then you should
not be capped to Rank 20 and lose 5% enhanced effect.

Why should this happen... it is simple really... your skill [rank] level means
you are adept at using that item above and beyond your level because you
have spent the time honing your abilities [skill] etc.

Another thing that should be discussed... there is very little chance that you
will find / buy or trade for an item that can help you exceed your Rank in that
skill, not only that, I am sure that 3-5+ years gaining prof points above Rank 20
actually helps you as much compared to the game mechanics now.

Anyway... just think this cap is irrelevent [sp]



Then there should be a CAP on Tier level, not your initial rank in your skill

With your example... the 20% cap should be accounted for... so a TierI = 20 max ee, and cap is another 20% cap, BUT, your Rank [skill] in that
item will exceed it.

Hope this made sense

EDIT: alot of people don't understand that a TierII dagger with 40% Enhanced effect will NEVER deal more damage than a WHITE tierIII dagger.
Now... if you have a rank of 20% in dagger, that tierII dagger with 40% ee will deal around the same damage of a tierIII WHITE dagger.

Tier II dagger = 8-14 damage
+ 20% = [1.6%] 09.60 - [02.80%] 16.8
+ 40% = [3.2%] 11.20 - [05.60%] 19.6
Tier III dagger = 12-21 damage [NO ENHANCED EFFECT]


This post was edited by izParagonzi on Aug 18 2014 09:24pm

What about the ridic 180+ee t1 items in sc?

Hardcore doesn't have many over spawns and you don't have any 20+ profs that I can see. Please explain what made you think about this change?
In under 50 words please

You should know better to ask Paul to change anything back to how it was in a previous patch. That's asking him to admit he was wrong about something in the game and we ALL know he would rather let the game die first.

Changing prof back can be likened to the following:
Return arena
Return no explore catas
Return HM, LPK, MPK, LPA, MPA and LS to their previously useful mechanics
Return old style muting
Return fast prof gain
Return 3 door mqs for all classes
Return text based version of the game
Give Roy all his gear back
Ressurect [username]'s character because you servers were hit by lightning, caught fire and an earthquake opened a fissure under the building and they all fell in.

None of the good things from the past will ever come back to the game because Paul wouldn't ever swallow his pride and develop the game the way a responsible caring designer would. Feedback is NOT asked for or even considered.

In the current system , prof is added to ee and ee is capped by tier. (because of unspawns)
it was the easiest way for him to implement it.
i do think it should be changed, but i doubt it would happen.

there are quite a few good suggestions for LS, but i think Paul has lost interest in it.
Every time there is an update everyone complains about it. I wouldn't update either.

I deleted my SC character with Rank 22 Sword and was using 60% ee TierIII sword etc... your post is irrelevent with core.



People learn from their mistakes and can live with it, I believe this is the same iwth Paul... so my suggestion is just MINOR in comparison to some of those posted
in your quote... basically we will take like 5-15 years of constant gaming to find a level 55 item with max EE... but during that time... our skill to use that item
has increased... but why KILL that items potential? anywya... I am dreaming and dreams are free, otherwise tax collectors would be poor.

My post was a question about what made you think about this change. Core is relevant because you only play hardcore and its a question about you, not the suggestion.

To be fair my first thought was also that this applies to essentially none of us on HC if not none of us

If the last 3 years worth of updates have told me anything it's Paul doesn't care whether you like what he does and he doesn't consider them mistakes even when those updates caused more than 75% of the community to quit.

Minor/major tweaks to this game are all the same in his eyes if it directly reverts any aspect of the game to something that was previously in the game. Not like it matters though. Another year or so and groups won't exist on this game, it will all be solo catacombs and you will suffer mqs that take 4 times as long at the very least.

Your post says otherwise:



@ bolded reflects that you made an error in your posts. Hence my reply that answers it simply and yet you did not even comprehend.



So... from my previous quote, you will see that I played Softcore, and I had a Rank above 20... and I did state that the said SC character was deleted, hence you would not even see them on the ranking table... the character that I deleted reached Rank 10 in swords BEFORE I did my EVER FIRST MQ... and I have accumulated 1170 GPs since then. [23 pages of MQ attemps]

So your questions have been answered... who cares if I am on HC now when I have done the SC thing with what you have questioned.



One thing over the years since I started [not as long as the old gamers], I have noticed the changes that benefit the group play and casters compared to the solo'ers and melee'ers.
He does have a final goal... I just think that some nerfs and changes need to be re-evaluated by the consequences that have come about... yes, in most games, some changes are
scorned at because previously players accepted the easy coding and don't accept the evolution to where the game is designed to reach [goal of creator].

Mind you, I don't accept alot of those changes, but, I have to adhere to it, if I want to continue... hence the reason why others choose to quit.