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May 3 2025 12:45pm
Hi experts :)

I’m working on my first climb with the Samurai and having a blast!

I’m sitting at level 56 at the moment and have two unspent ability points. Reading through the list of options, I’m guessing either Powerstrike or Knockdown are the most popular choices, but a third has caught my eye….

Name: Healtank
Description: Heals front row
Charges with: Weapon
Class: Guardian

Now I’m sure this is an awful choice and it probably scales with intelligence or something, but some healing would be amazing! Is this viable at all on a Samurai with no intelligence, or are Powerstike and Knockdown the only viable options?

As always - thank you all :)
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May 3 2025 12:54pm
You definitely wanna use Twohitback as one of your choices. Using healing abilities solo isn’t really common I don’t think, due to monsters that reset your ability counter. You’d have to get lucky and have a heal ability built up when you actually need it and not before or you’d risk a monster resetting it.


Twohitback is a Samurai ability, so it will require less points allocated to it to build it up to higher level (50+).
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You definitely wanna use Twohitback as one of your choices. Using healing abilities solo isn’t really common I don’t think, due to monsters that reset your ability counter. You’d have to get lucky and have a heal ability built up when you actually need it and not before or you’d risk a monster resetting it.


Twohitback is a Samurai ability, so it will require less points allocated to it to build it up to higher level (50+).


I’m using Multistike and Twohitback at the moment, and both are at 66. Should I pick up a third ability, or just keep keep leveling those two?

Also, do all spells and healing abilities scale with Intelligence? If that is the case I definitely dont want a heal on my pure strength samurai!

Thanks for the reply :)

This post was edited by Willitrix on May 3 2025 01:01pm
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I’m using Multistike and Twohitback at the moment, and both are at 66. Should I pick up a third ability, or just keep keep leveling those two?

Also, do all spells and healing abilities scale with Intelligence? If that is the case I definitely dont want a heal on my pure strength samurai!

Thanks for the reply :)


For solo Sammy I think the best three options are Twohitback, Powerstrike, and Retribution.

I don’t think stat points affect abilities, but the more Int you have the more your heal charm would heal for, and in turn the more a healing ability would do. I have never used healing abilities so I really have no idea. :D

I haven’t played Sammy in a while so don’t remember exactly how I played him, but I’d get twohitback to 50+ then work on powerstrike and ret. Retribution is triggered by hits taken, so if a monster hits you for 0 (this will happen more if you’re using an EE armor) you won’t have a chance of it powering up. If you choose to do three abilities, I’d probably do retribution last. Twohitback -> Powerstrike -> Retribution


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May 3 2025 02:02pm
I wouldnt stat anything into int or healing abilities as a sammy, mostly because it's very low int base and it would require quite alot of points into it to make it worthwhile (also only if u have a really good healcharm on)
You would benefit more from putting those points into extra vitality (IMO)

as for a 3rd ability if u really want one i'd go with power most likely in ur case.

BUT if u end up with healtank, ur character must be in the front slot and cannot use the healabilty on urself in either middle or backrow.
(salvation would be a stronger heal ability and doesnt matter where you're standing) but even that is weak without a good healcharm or alot of int. (specially now with so many monsters being able to steal ability)


Personally i would only have 2 different abilities while soloing (i even normally skip multi, but i dont melee these days)
I would most likely have gone with Twohitback + power

But we all have our preferences :P


be careful: someone will chime in and tell you how wrong you are about healing XD


Well aware, maybe we get to see the new word he learnt recently too!

Interpretation!.


This post was edited by NR1 on May 3 2025 02:09pm
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I wouldnt stat anything into int or healing abilities as a sammy, mostly because it's very low int base and it would require quite alot of points into it to make it worthwhile (also only if u have a really good healcharm on)
You would benefit more from putting those points into extra vitality (IMO)

as for a 3rd ability if u really want one i'd go with power most likely in ur case.

BUT if u end up with healtank, ur character must be in the front slot and cannot use the healabilty on urself in either middle or backrow.
(salvation would be a stronger heal ability and doesnt matter where you're standing) but even that is weak without a good healcharm or alot of int. (specially now with so many monsters being able to steal ability)


Personally i would only have 2 different abilities while soloing (i even normally skip multi, but i dont melee these days)
I would most likely have gone with Twohitback + power

But we all have our preferences :P


be careful: someone will chime in and tell you how wrong you are about healing XD
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May 3 2025 02:11pm
Normally I only use two(2) abilities. For myself using Samurai, Retribution & Salvation, I get to Base 30 intelligence, 100 base vitality and rest strength, however I use Longswords and Stat armor & Charm.

Two Hit back + Powerstrike
Powerstrike + Retribution
Two Hit back + Retribution

The 3 above is good... both retribution & powerstrike has powerful attacks vs single monsters, also great vs EPs, two hit back only works if there are two or more monsters on screen.

It is up to you and your play style ... since you are 56, 2 ability points, either retribution or powerstrike. EDIT: choose based on your armor type and whether using EE (use powerstrike) or Stat (use retribution).

This post was edited by izParagonzi on May 3 2025 02:17pm
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May 3 2025 02:18pm
Salvation for 3rd ability
Salv + wild heal can get you a pretty decent heal from time to time when it Heals on the high end

This post was edited by Lords_Prayer on May 3 2025 02:20pm
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May 3 2025 04:03pm
two hit, power and retribution for your 3 solo
start with power though until at least to around lvl 20-25. you're not getting hit that hard at those levels

This post was edited by low-ki on May 3 2025 04:05pm
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May 3 2025 09:37pm
Normally I only use two(2) abilities. For myself using Samurai, Retribution & Salvation, I get to Base 30 intelligence, 100 base vitality and rest strength, however I use Longswords and Stat armor & Charm.

Two Hit back + Powerstrike
Powerstrike + Retribution
Two Hit back + Retribution

The 3 above is good... both retribution & powerstrike has powerful attacks vs single monsters, also great vs EPs, two hit back only works if there are two or more monsters on screen.

It is up to you and your play style ... since you are 56, 2 ability points, either retribution or powerstrike. EDIT: choose based on your armor type and whether using EE (use powerstrike) or Stat (use retribution).


This sounds like a super fun build!

I’ve mostly been leaning towards ee armors so that probably doesn’t work with my current setup, but someday I may try to assemble gear that could work with that!

Does stating intelligence make the heals from Salvation stronger?
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