1. Mobile version is kinda bad lol. You can tell it's still mostly made to work for desktop. The UI is super dated though. I have to zoom 175% on my desktop browser to see anything but I'm playing on 4k for what I'm assuming is designed to run best at 720p or 1080p

2. The daily bonuses are cool but it just causes too many ups and downs of player activity

3. Way too many cash rich people causing everything to be majorly hyper inflated. Lots of donors and fg buyers in LS. Like are you kidding? Small player base flash game and some items go for hundreds even thousands of dollars equivalent. Let that sink in for a second.

4. Ego ego ego. I see people fighting eachother in threads over dumb shit. It's mostly a pretty civil and chill place all around.

5. LS only mentality. If you aren't active or in a LS guild you get excluded. I've actually had people deny me trades because I'm not in a LS guild. (No I'm not joining a LS guild)

6. Groups are far and few in-between. I understand some people only climb with guildies but the rest expect you to have top notch gear or you get kicked. See problem 3.

7. People advertising LS but you're guilty of point 5 and 6. Can't tell what you actually want. Are you just wanting rich poker players to come along so you can shark them? I know the other trade sections do.

Been playing it off and on for a while. I haven't seen much change tbh.
Thoughts?

Welcome to LS, you must be new here

for more serious responses

1) Agreed it needs work, but the games intended to be played on pc. He has updated it to be more efficient in the past few years.

2) Agreed and not. People only explore if events good, otherwise they whistle for groups. The major problem with the game is theres 3 things to do. Collect gear, get prof(climb or skill), reset ladder. Once these are achieved the game is boring imo. The game needs more content/achievable goals desperately, that way gg gear(rarely drops) is more obtainable/affordable.

3) See above and below

4) Just ignore them/who cares

5 6 & 7) Its not fun carrying noobs or your climb taking an extra 30 mins because of dead weight. Invest and upgrade your gear or keep struggling. Average gear is affordable, although it would be nice if you could actually farm gear/sets(ties to #2) its the gg gear that gets super expensive. I think if points above in 2 were added, it would help with your other gripes

Also you said you wont join a ls guild, but that will help you get climbs and you can borrow gear which will help get you going. Until you are established nobody wants to carry dead weight

Hope this helps

This post was edited by Pick on Jun 28 2024 03:06pm

You make some good points 👍
You also accurately described the world (just replace LS with earth)

I do enjoy a good conversation about possible changes though

Considering how little good gear is readily available, I think the prices are fair (with certain exceptions of course). So much amazing gear has been lost due to inactive users over the years, it's depressing.

He makes a great point here - I use gearsets (some I purchased as whole sets and some I pieced-together myself) which I personally would consider mediocre gear (most damage items between 100-150ee) - middle of the spectrum in terms of stat quality/damage etc. I have spent less than 20k total over the course of the last 5-10 years.
It's less about top-notch gear and moreso comes down to your dedication to climbing with the group and getting usable upgrades as time permits.
Soloing with my mediocre gear - takes approx. 4-5 hours (nonstop play) from lvl 1-MQ in most instances.
Whistle group-climbs with this type of gear take about 1.5 hours assuming everyone has equal or better gear.

This is, again, assuming everyone is also putting in the effort - I have personally experienced groups kicking certain players who have high-quality gear, but they don't click monsters and play with the same level of contribution and focus as everyone else - at the end of the climbs you should look to have more than 3,250 total actions, and 1.5-2mil total damage minimum - this is just my opinion to be more 'accepted' into group climbs.

The issue is, ONE person in the group with inadequate gear to get from 1-MQ severely slows the group down - we are talking easily 15-30 extra minutes, in some cases it could add an extra hour if they do not have usable gear at level 55. 80% of people trying to whistle-climb will likely have these expectations of each member of the group.

It's not easy to explain this to the more casual players who join groups, particularly the full noobs with no gear, which is why typically groups will just kick users who aren't associated with popular LS guilds or have usable gear. It's not meant to be offensive, at least not from my experience - and I have been on both sides of this issue. Once I became more 'established' in the community, built better gear, and the more active players saw me slashing in groups more often - it wasn't long before I was accepted by the general masses.
I realize this doesn't solve the gripe you have, just hoping it helped better explain why the group-play community has this instinctive reaction.

The biggest piece of information I hope you pull from all of this is, YES there are a few bad eggs within the community, but for the most part if people are noticing that you are putting in effort in climbs and also in trying to better yourself within the game - they will be more willing to be inclusive.



This is also a very good point, the amount of exceptional gear (what I personally consider 170%EE and beyond) is simply just too little and far between which inflates the prices. Couple that with the very high demand and you end up with all of these users with hundreds of thousands of FG overpaying for what they want.

This post was edited by Epiphany on Jun 28 2024 04:15pm

The gear part wouldn't bother me if more mid tier stuff was available but it's either junk or high end. Not a lot of in-between l
I've done a few climbs with my current stuff but it takes forever

I think people buy up all the mid tier stuff then quit
And my understanding is that A LOT of the hard core muters quit a long time ago. So new stuff isn't churned out as regularly

Go find something gg and get paid. Less typing more clicking gogo

Vouch for this guy

I would consider most of my gear as mid tier, especially when compared to the big dogs. I solo for the most part and have a good time exploring. Every once in a while I'll do a group climb, but I personally hate whistling. So much to the point to where it's not even a fun game, I'd rather do something else.

To really compare in this game in the sense of resetting ladders, you need extremely good gear and/or tons of time. I don't have either so I enjoy getting around 20 MQs a season and getting to monk/ninja and maybe warlock one day.

1. Mobile only for skilling, desktop for climbing

2. There are only two interesting events (more EP and higher stat quality) and they seem to boost online a little bit, the rest might be useful sometimes but don't attract players to go online at all

3. True but the bottom line is you play you get rich as well. Skilling or just farming will get you there sooner or later, I came back to LS during covid with very mediocre gear and now I upgraded almost every single item

4. 5. 6. Introducing solo climbing! Seriously, no drama, just chill and click, enjoy 😀

7. I think the more slashers the more potential in dropping cool items. That's what everyone in here wants, items. Many inactive players took godly items to the grave and we are where we are

Anyway, play for your own pleasure, not fg not guild points, whatever