I have been thinking about how stagnant LS has been for the past few years and trying to come up with ideas to bring in fresh faces and keep them hanging around and this is the best i can come up with.
An optional self found ladder option that comes with better drop rates but you have to start a fresh character with no items and a separate vault.
This will run alongside the current season and will have its own ladder like HC, if it is reset all items and characters will go back to standard LS.
This will give new players a foot in the door of ls and a chance to build their own item sets through hard work and dedication without the current wall where it is next to impossible.
It will however possibly effect the prices of ls items for veterans if enough players do not take up the game to offset it so the idea is not perfect.

That is all i have for now, feel free to shoot it down or suggest changes.

no

posted at
4:56pm eastern time.

This post was edited by slushslush on Feb 13 2024 03:56pm

Has been suggested numerous times and the answer is always no. Sorry

Even as a new/poor player, voted no.
That would just be the downfall i guess.
We can see how it goes with season after season bs in other games, which are fun to play upon new season launch for few days, and where standard mode is becoming completely irrelevant.

For people with good gear sets the regular ladder would always be superior, faster guild points and runs, ls is not like other games.
Standard would never be irrelevant, it is the core of the game, there would be no point in farming gear if not to use it on standard and its harder to start fresh with nothing than you think even with better drop rates.
If people saw ls as a good place to make some fg and have a bit of fun with their guilds activity would pick up.

I see what you’re getting at but with self found ladder you wouldn’t be able to sell or buy anything. Until the season resets. If it resets. I doubt it would ever reset - and if it did it would be years. Look how long this season has been going on already with people out there having crazy gear and the ability to do 5+ mqs a day. This one has been going on over a year at this point.

Also don’t like the idea of possibly splitting the player base. The numbers are already so low especially in hardcore

I don’t think the average new player coming in would put 3+ years into a game to make fg, if making fg was their goal. At least new players right now can sell muteables, etc and make a small income daily

I mean self found in that you start with nothing, the market will still exist in its current state just only with items that dropped in that ladder.

It is a very good premise but there is no way it would be implemented and would actually hurt the game.

I do like the influx of suggestions as of late though, keep them coming!

Tbh I like the idea, just don’t ever seeing it work.

Not sure if you were around when HC started, but the first hc mq was done with a level 20 charm! It took forever to get the hc item base going and that was back when drop rates were much better and there were soooooo many more people playing.

For the ladder to even be somewhat achievable the drop rates would need to be way higher, which I think would be bad if those items ever merged with the current sc

I agree if the current player base stays in place but if we could get another hundred or two hundred people the increased drop rates would not matter, people would be able to gear up a bit easier and the game would be more approachable for new players.
Right now its tough to start with less than 50k fg, and its hard to convince my guildies to even drop 5k on a game they may not be playing in a week, with garbage gear you experience a whole different game.