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Nov 22 2023 05:07am
With the advancement of transmuting skillers on both softcore and hardcore platforms the items started to just sell again as materials for the process and fewer and fewer of them are used in the Shrine to provide instant hp/mana and even then they provide so low hp and mana to the character that it is just better to put them on market for at least 1 fg.

What If we replace the Shrine with a special place called Campfire or whatever where you get like a fixed life and mana regen ( let's say 50 life + mana regen ).

I know in some situations like full party climbs it is way better to just shrine fast as a healer and carry on but then just give me an idea on how do we fix that and also solo climbs?

As it is now solo is just brutal... You can climb with a full group in less then 2h but solo you need more then 2 days.

Have a nice week everyone!

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Nov 22 2023 05:09am
Quote (rusclaudiualin @ Nov 22 2023 11:07am)
With the advancement of transmuting skillers on both softcore and hardcore platforms the items started to just sell again as materials for the process and fewer and fewer of them are used in the Shrine to provide instant hp/mana and even then they provide so low hp and mana to the character that it is just better to put them on market for at least 1 fg.

What If we replace the Shrine with a special place called Campfire or whatever where you get like a fixed life and mana regen ( let's say 50 life + mana regen ).

I know in some situations like full party climbs it is way better to just shrine fast as a healer and carry on but then just give me an idea on how do we fix that and also solo climbs?

As it is now solo is just brutal... You can climb with a full group in less then 2h but solo you need more then 2 days.

Have a nice week everyone!


if your solo is taking 2 days you're doing something wrong
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Nov 22 2023 05:20am
Just wow... A softcore player with 200+ ee lvl 55 axe and items worth of 100k fg is telling me that I do something wrong.
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Nov 22 2023 05:26am
Quote (rusclaudiualin @ Nov 22 2023 11:20am)
Just wow... A softcore player with 200+ ee lvl 55 axe and items worth of 100k fg is telling me that I do something wrong.


even with your gear im sure investing in a couple of regen items speeds up your run by at least a day
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Nov 22 2023 05:32am
Quote (Mezzer69 @ 22 Nov 2023 13:26)
even with your gear im sure investing in a couple of regen items speeds up your run by at least a day


Man I am speaking from different experience. I just dare you to play with max prof of 10 with gear with like max 100 ee and tell me how much it will take for you.

The regen items will speed up the process but not in a way it will count by a lot when from lvl 50+ you kill 4-5 mobs before your life is shredded to under 2k.

Also this is not on the subject.
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Nov 22 2023 06:10am
In all fairness I am going to vote No. EDIT: This is not a bad idea, so I could not vote NO, so I null voted.

I don't use EE armor, I don't use normal weapons, I do not use Elemental cast charms and I can still do an MQ in a Day if I wasn't mucking around Re-rolling for Wells to well all my white Tier III - Tier VIII's lately for Prof gain.

Basically I end up with a ton of Shrine-able items, and decent ones. I learn to save the Angelic & Mythical Tier III / IV, I sell off the Arcane+ for 1fg (depending on Tier) ... I also keep Mystical Tier VII's + to shrine ... yup, maybe some more fg can be made, but then my MP seems to get filled up pretty damn fast and my Vault gets full faster with shrine items. (Basically I learnt how to use the lower tier items in a way to keep higher tier shrine items stack up and available around level 65+)

I just Melee / Heal ... base 30 intelligence even for Samurai. Luckily I believe my latest focus is 1xx % Enhanced Effect ... I think that is the highest EE Tier XIV I have, even better than my level 55 Heavy Weapon which I hardly use.

Just my 2 cents worth from experience.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Nov 22 2023 06:15am
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Nov 22 2023 07:13am
Quote (rusclaudiualin @ Nov 22 2023 06:07am)
With the advancement of transmuting skillers on both softcore and hardcore platforms the items started to just sell again as materials for the process and fewer and fewer of them are used in the Shrine to provide instant hp/mana and even then they provide so low hp and mana to the character that it is just better to put them on market for at least 1 fg.

What If we replace the Shrine with a special place called Campfire or whatever where you get like a fixed life and mana regen ( let's say 50 life + mana regen ).

I know in some situations like full party climbs it is way better to just shrine fast as a healer and carry on but then just give me an idea on how do we fix that and also solo climbs?

As it is now solo is just brutal... You can climb with a full group in less then 2h but solo you need more then 2 days.

Have a nice week everyone!


I think that will devalue Regen gear if I properly understand you.

I think it would be cool to have a campfire area that could act like a town chat for everyone to help orchestrate trades or groups
It's not like there's enough players to flood it anymore.
Call it the Fire or town center
But idk about a regen area. Seems like a bonfire in darksouls you don't have to work to get to. Wasn't sure what you meant by the fixed regen
And if you have to leave group/cata to go to it.
Not gunning you down, just don't fully understand the dynamics



Edit: I also mainly solo. High levels can be brutal. Some days I stop. Most time it takes a few days with good gear unless you have hours on end... I don't care for regen gear. Which I have I just never xfer 🤣
I guess it could speed up the fire effects but im not sure it's needed

This post was edited by Outraged on Nov 22 2023 07:23am
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Nov 22 2023 07:13am
Nah. Not needed.
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Nov 22 2023 07:14am
Definitely wouldn't replace the shrine with this but it and marketplace could be improved to be able to shrine and sell items quicker, like maybe a hotkey for shrining once an item is picked up instead of having to drag then confirm, you could supplement this with a small tickbox to make items indestructible to avoid shrining personal gear
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Nov 22 2023 07:32am
Quote (woofer14 @ Nov 22 2023 10:14am)
Definitely wouldn't replace the shrine with this but it and marketplace could be improved to be able to shrine and sell items quicker, like maybe a hotkey for shrining once an item is picked up instead of having to drag then confirm, you could supplement this with a small tickbox to make items indestructible to avoid shrining personal gear


Nope then people will cry that the accidentally shrined an item they were trying to sell.

Also disagree with op’s suggestion since regen gear would solve that problem. I use 25 regen armor and 21 regen axe and 7? Regen charm and it takes me less than 30 seconds to go from 0 to fully healed.
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