Maps with + mods are a great… but what about plain maps?

Example:
Rare embossed volcano map
Level Req: 25
Use Item to Receive Effect

Quantity: 2
+14 Level Cap

This map can spawn monsters up to level 64, but doesn’t have any real mods (EP, chest, diff). Is it worth running when I’m level 55? Or should I stick to a fresh catacomb?

At high levels catacombs can be hard to complete - especially without a TD detector.

Curious which people think is better? Why?

theoretically, maps should always be better:
-evils spawn rate is 2%, so every time u explore 50 fields u should get 1 evil wave.(for maps and cata same rate)[of course only valid on average]

- so if u have a map with 20x20 = 400 -> u should get 8 evils wave in this map. if u kill reg mobs u get ~2% exp if u solo u get ~2mobs/wave --> u need 25waves for 1 lvl up --> in avg. u get 1evils wave per 2 lvls (beacsue every wave can bespawn as an evil)
- if u run in catas u will sometime move on "already explored fields" where no evils can spwan, to explore 50fields u have to fight more waves of reg mobs -> u need maybe 2.5 or 3 lvl to get 1 evils wave.

-> in maps u should get in the same time more evils.

I personally think you need to calculate this more effectively.

The OP displayed a Tier VIII map, and the maximum spawn monster to appear is Level 50, and with the +14 Cap to monster level is only +14 which indicates level 64 monster cap... and can not complete Master Quest even as a Feeder class of 71.

So, in reality, the OP should start the Map at level 50 based on the "Event" that is current at the time. Example, the event has +120% More Evil Presence ... now that modification can change a number of outcomes.

The SIZE of the the MAP catacomb, makes a difference COMBINED with the EVENT(s) at the time of opening (using) the map.

EDIT: I voted for plain map, the reason is based on the event(s) during that time.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jun 14 2023 04:18am

You can’t find wells in maps unless they have the +evil well map mod, so that is one draw back.

I also generally agree that it is better to run a map as you have a higher chance of EPs

Ofc u have to start the map on the right lvl. If u get 10lvl ups in a map Start it 10 before reaching lvl cap... If u do this map is better



Yeah but Wells useless without nice event mods. So 80%time u don't need wells

This post was edited by tor_zero on Jun 14 2023 04:33am

You are correct, however, you have to find out the dimensions of a level 25 Map, then you have to figure out when your character can complete it by the Level Cap of that map with +14 Cap (level 64) ... now based on how MANY maps are available (1-5), you can figure out how many RUNS you can do... remember, the dimensions of the map is the same, however the spawn rate of EPs, TCs' Warm Lights or Spins is all based on the RNG when creating and exploring the map at that time.



A map with +Wells is awesome, even if you are level 55 and open a Tier I map with +2 wells ... the Well is the only thing that matters when welling Tier XI + at level 55+ and so forth... I have a Tier VIII map with +1 Well that I have not used, but dang, I could use it for its benefits and more.

If it has the right mods, sure.

But 9 times out of 10, i just explore the cata.

One of the best few perks of a map is no TDS, no spins, and backtracking to complete map is easy.

dont forget the chest pops as none of us like getting those tier 1 spawn maps from a lvl 55+ finished cata

This post was edited by Mezzer69 on Jun 14 2023 07:31am

Chest pops dont have any allure for me. Getting 10x t2 whites/magicals is the same as just getting 2x lol