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Oct 7 2018 02:13am
Quote (redawg53 @ Oct 6 2018 11:30pm)
<Humongous is an American slang word coined in the 1970's, copying more proper words like tremendous or enormous. If you want to describe something that's so big it's hard to really measure, like the national debt or the number of cells in your body, you can use the world humongous.>

Stop looking @ newspaper for words of the day 54%-46% isnt that vast of a difference



Humongous....ginormous....infinite.....whatever! Since this will probably never get 75% or more to vote yes this thread is invalid and might as well become closed!

Quote (izParagonzi @ Oct 7 2018 12:08am)
This is probably an alternative to this idea in a simplified manner... so, with this in mind, a person would have to remove many items from the MP when trading full set items (10-12 each), and if one person has decided to purchase it as a whole pack price of 22,000 fg, how does the marketplace establish the correct FEE for individual items? I suppose the answer would be to add in a "Pack" price, you enter in the username # @ 22,000 and add all of the items... what if those items are on different characters and so forth... can you give us an idea to implement your idea more... I actually like this over the mailbox, but, I think it needs further discussion.



Tl;didn’t really understand, so probably no

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Humongous....ginormous....infinite.....whatever! Since this will probably never get 75% or more to vote yes this thread is invalid and might as well become closed!




Tl;didn’t really understand, so probably no


Since Paul has made it abundantly clear that he does not care for feedback and is building the game the way he wants all suggestion threads should be closed no matter what % of the players think.
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Since Paul has made it abundantly clear that he does not care for feedback and is building the game the way he wants all suggestion threads should be closed no matter what % of the players think.



This is incorrect because I have seen some suggestions become implemented. But I highly doubt this will become one of them
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 7 Oct 2018 09:08)
This is probably an alternative to this idea in a simplified manner... so, with this in mind, a person would have to remove many items from the MP when trading full set items (10-12 each), and if one person has decided to purchase it as a whole pack price of 22,000 fg, how does the marketplace establish the correct FEE for individual items? I suppose the answer would be to add in a "Pack" price, you enter in the username # @ 22,000 and add all of the items... what if those items are on different characters and so forth... can you give us an idea to implement your idea more... I actually like this over the mailbox, but, I think it needs further discussion.


Yes, I just wrote an alternative solution to this post which is easier to implement.
You can add 10-12 items with its own price (combined to be 22k), the fee will be taken for each item, like it is now. You just have to trust the buyer that will buy all the items.

But, I didnt said is a good solution as this will distroy the concept of guild transfer.
I didnt vote yet as Im not sure.
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Oct 7 2018 03:03am
Quote (CARTRACK @ Oct 7 2018 09:13pm)
Tl;didn’t really understand, so probably no


Thus you don't really comprehend the initial suggestion either, especially if you can not understand, why do you bother to post at all.

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Yes, I just wrote an alternative solution to this post which is easier to implement.
You can add 10-12 items with its own price (combined to be 22k), the fee will be taken for each item, like it is now. You just have to trust the buyer that will buy all the items.

But, I didnt said is a good solution as this will distroy the concept of guild transfer.
I didnt vote yet as Im not sure.


Then that is the difference... individual sale price with a fee vs a package deal @ a set price and the fee is only once removed... Thing is this, if individual items had their OWN price/fees, then a buyer can IGNORE items they do not need in the package deal, thus making trade bins in trade forum abused.

There are items in a package deal that I want, but only 3 out of 10 items because I have better items, so, when it is put on marketplace as a so called package deal, and individual prices are instituted, then I can forego the other 7 items and ONLY buy the 3 items I am interested, so, the trader loses out on fees.

I think it needs more thought... but that is my opinion... I still like your idea, I just don't agree that individual items have fees when package deals are set as 1 price and the fee is applied to taking the whole package and not abused.
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Oct 7 2018 05:02am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Oct 7 2018 01:03am)
Thus you don't really comprehend the initial suggestion either, especially if you can not understand, why do you bother to post at all.



Then that is the difference... individual sale price with a fee vs a package deal @ a set price and the fee is only once removed... Thing is this, if individual items had their OWN price/fees, then a buyer can IGNORE items they do not need in the package deal, thus making trade bins in trade forum abused.

There are items in a package deal that I want, but only 3 out of 10 items because I have better items, so, when it is put on marketplace as a so called package deal, and individual prices are instituted, then I can forego the other 7 items and ONLY buy the 3 items I am interested, so, the trader loses out on fees.

I think it needs more thought... but that is my opinion... I still like your idea, I just don't agree that individual items have fees when package deals are set as 1 price and the fee is applied to taking the whole package and not abused.



I understood it and voted no. Clearly I am not the only one! But keep throwing your opinions out on this matter and perhaps others will agree with you.
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Oct 7 2018 08:34am
Quote (CARTRACK @ Oct 7 2018 03:20am)
This is incorrect because I have seen some suggestions become implemented. But I highly doubt this will become one of them



Yes, but do you believe he picks those selections based on popular opinion or because he personally likes them? Thus if any stay open, all deserve to. However I’d guess the overall percentage of ideas implemented is very small and considering you’ve probably only been around for one of Paul’s patches I doubt you’ve seen too many implemented.

On the flip side there have been plenty of suggestions in here that have been taken the wrong way by Paul and then removed completely, so one could argue that these suggestions are more destructive than constructive.
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Quote (danomak @ Oct 7 2018 06:34am)
Yes, but do you believe he picks those selections based on popular opinion or because he personally likes them?

Umm both!? Maybe either/or? Paul is the person to ask this; not me.



Thus if any stay open, all deserve to.

Disagree. Some suggestions are horrible (I have made some myself) that they deserved to be closed.



However I’d guess the overall percentage of ideas implemented is very small and considering you’ve probably only been around for one of Paul’s patches I doubt you’ve seen too many implemented.

On the flip side there have been plenty of suggestions in here that have been taken the wrong way by Paul and then removed completely, so one could argue that these suggestions are more destructive than constructive.


Or one could argue that any suggestion that Pail has actually implemented could thus be considered constructive and had it not been suggested then perhaps would have never been implemented.

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Oct 7 2018 09:23am
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Or one could argue that any suggestion that Pail has actually implemented could thus be considered constructive and had it not been suggested then perhaps would have never been implemented.


And so you agree that all have merit and should be allowed to run their course whether they are popular amoungst the community or not. Therefore this should not be closed because it does not meet some random 75% threshold that you deem worthy.

Again I’d argue that the percentage of accepted ideas is so small that it is negligible, and you’d say you’ve seen millions of ideas implemented in the half of a year/1 update or so you’ve been playing.
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Oct 7 2018 09:39am
Quote (CARTRACK @ Oct 7 2018 03:20am)
This is incorrect because I have seen some suggestions become implemented. But I highly doubt this will become one of them


You must have been around for a long time to see idea implemented, but your acct is pretty new. Weird.. or not.
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