The "devalue" of items is actually a very old topic. Which was most obvious believe it or not when the drop rates were increased which in turn flooded the market with higher level items which devalued items. Needless to say, the 40,000 fg 230 ee swords dropped down to 12000-15000 fg. There were several unpopular decisions which happen including removing no-maze catacombs and the former transmute system. This increased the item value dramatically, again, nearly normal after it worked out it's kinks. However, this was still never enough. The reason being, the staunch drop rates from before while having the beloved transmute system, welling and later no-maze catacombs gave the thrill of the hunt. Unlike now, it is a contention based system. 5 people competing for 1 item. Your entitlement has been removed. Ironically, the actual monster drop rates largely increased, probably 30 fold of what it used to be. Which supposedly is the system to replace the older methods of mayhem. In my opinion this happen to give anyone a chance, people who are incapable of welling or arena to have a chance at the best items at the expense of the people who earned, bought or invested to have such ownership. A bit of ladder slasher socialism if you will.

Now, back when I departed these parts, the prices did start to drop again. To my understanding now, values drop because of statistical changes rendering some things... questionable at best. Well, you know, I'd much prefer a staunch drop rate with the ability of "ownership" especially of my own fate, being it Arena, Welling, Transmuting or No maze catacombs. Which of course increases the value of game play, our investments and in hindsight the community. But, going back to my previous point in this topic, being force fed multiplayer is not the way of the world of gaming. It's simply a part of it but not THE it.

The conclusion is, multiplayer, higher drop rates replacing the arena, welling, no maze catacombs. Trade off, interesting.

This post was edited by przy on Dec 14 2010 09:43pm

first off, I'm definately not a fan of socialism, at least not in it's entireity and practical application. I think each individual should have the means of making his own future and if he's succesful he should not be punished for it by having it taken from him.

Anyways, back to the topic at hand. The "devalue" of items isn't the real problem. I knew when I paid 180k for a certain charm that I would never be able to sell it that high. It's the part where top end items are no longer wanted or needed. Well maybe they are wanted for super cheap, but they aren't needed which is why the value has gone down. If I knew then what I know now... I don't believe for one second that Paul has a master plan for what he wants this game to be. If he did, he would of just made it that way to start with and not taken years and years making small steps towards it. I think an idea pops in his head and he either acts on it or doesn't. Sometimes I wish he'd listen to the community, but he doesn't, not unless it's praise. With this last update, many of the top slashers have stopped playing and nobody is replacing them. That should be a red flag that something is wrong. Ladder slasher is now a team game and there just isn't enough people playing to support that.

Oh well, not like he's going to read any of this, or take it into account when he makes the next update.

Feeling feisty enuf to quote the admins:


If we would like your opinion we would make the thread.

Says it all, doesn't it?

Free hugs.

I wish the hate would stop

god damn dude when don't you have his dick in your mouth