Quote (TooNArmY @ Jun 21 2011 10:48pm)
I have certainly considered the option of someone ' actually sniping it '
However, there is only ONE of TWO options that occured.
Option 1: Rafaels told someone to snipe it, put it up before he told me 'up' and got someone to buy it
a pure scam, which it certainly looks like.
The only other option...
Option 2: Rafaels had received my fg, took little care if putting my item on the market and informing me, and opened up a window for it to be sniped, and cared not that i didnt get my item, as long as he got my fg. Because the way the MP x fer works, there is only 1/2 a second where it's in no-man's land, and with 40 people, none of who are aware of what's happening, there is a 0% chance of it being snipped.
Furthermore, i DIDN'T even see it, Rafaels claim was that in the 0.2 seconds he hit 'enter' and sent me the message UP and my eyes registering his message and me pushing 'search' that it had been sniped. It's not like i saw the staff on the market, got it in the box and an error showed up.
It's simply impossible.
Option 1: He scammed me.
Option 2: He screwed me over, took my fg, and put my item on the open market purposely with absolutely no regard for my end of the deal.
In the end, it was 100% Rafaels fault the staff was not received me, there was a 0.2 second margin of error on my mind, and i would bet anything that it cannot be randomly sniped in such a time frame.
Furthermore, to completely deny ANY liability, when using MP x fer WAS HIS IDEA, and his fault, one way or the other for losing the staff, to not even split the loss 1/2 and 1/2 and send me back at least some fg, instead he said, in the worst english possible for a grown human being, to basically go fuck myself, that apparently it was my fault.
No. Tim, Erich speaks highly of you, i like you too, but to stand by a man like that is just embarassing. He has no integrity, and no intelligence.
Quote (StealinHerHeart @ Jun 21 2011 10:27pm)
Well, after reading this entire
Flame topic (because that's what it is). I must say that even though the "chances" of an item being sniped are slim it is STILL a possibility. As far as Raf being a scammer, I think your dead wrong on that. Is he a bit (OK a Lot) arrogant? YES. Is he an asshole? YES. But a scammer? Not at all. Yes he is a close personal friend of mine and I am going to defend him in this. You both should have just paid the fee, and there wouldn't have been this problem. I can tell you right now that this staff is not located anywhere in trust vaults, or even in former trust vaults. The fact of the matter is (though you might feel differently) Transactions over MP (sniped or not) are not considered scams.
Also I am sure that when Raf gets on he can show his gold logs and you will see where he sold it and you missed it. Your loss not his.
Quote (James84 @ Jun 21 2011 10:25pm)
http://i325.photobucket.com/albums/k386/HJames84/Untitled.jpg
The part that says
etc, means alot.
Some common sense should be enough and not to mention this is Paul's game, the Mp fee is there for a certain reason, trying to work your way around it is against his wishes, therefore punishable.
Wait, sorry what I just typed doesn't answer your question, my bad.
Almost anything that is wrong can end up with a punishement. Rule or no rule, it's only normal.
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As I said before, in this situation, I doubt anything will happen due to 2 ppl agreeing on something that, is wrong in the eyes of others.
But it might still cause a hassle for ppl in the futur.
It's been said, even a loan that isn't paid back might get the user locked.
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I hope this answers everyone. But I know it wont, cause many will fight the truth just to save some Fg/$$$, way of the world
Quote (Deadreborn @ Jun 21 2011 11:06pm)
I agreed with you until this post. Let me show you why without trying to add gasoline to an already raging fire.
You state here that;
He's a business owner and requires integrity and
ethics in the real world.
However, previously you state that;
So what kind of ethics can a man like this have? (Retorical question)
I do not know him personally but all I can say is a business man would know to give himself a good image. If he actually has all that money and good ethics (such a touchy subject
) then why did he not offer at least 25% of the price back? That is the least a "business" man would do to encourge future business. This is common knowledge.
I will not judge until I hear Raf's story, but from the PMs I've seen on this topic it doesn't look very good.