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Aug 20 2020 09:23am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Aug 20 2020 05:01am)
I try not to post in this topic, just watch it, since I'm not a participant, however I would advise that the club is "better". The average damage is 87 vs 88 (based on your current stats). So it does fall in favor of the battleaxe. And the range means your club will hit more zeros. All of this is true.

Yet on average, you're likely to end up with similar damage total from the two, with higher dps from the club, but that's not even the issue I'd view. You're on hardcore, correct? So that means, if you die, your item goes poof. I would assume that you're probably rolling on /set easy 1 so 2 mobs max, but beyond feeder, it's 3 regardless come 71. Two stunners and you face a severe problem where with the heavy weapon, you have not quite double the delay between hits, with stun shots extending that delay. You can realistically become nearly stunlocked, and unable to run away, should you need.

My advice is to use the club. The ability to react means more than the ability to predict when death is final.

If you disagree, I respect that, I do ask that, since I'm not involved in this beyond a simple piece of advice, if you wish to discuss further, please pm me. ♥



Your advice is always welcome!
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Aug 20 2020 10:52am
Mystical linen robe
Level Req: 5
Physical Defense: 0 to 6
Magical Defense: 12 to 37
+290 Max Mana
+1 Critical Strike
+1% Ice Mastery

ep at 22 for my mage :)
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Aug 20 2020 11:17am
Quote (Horadric_Pube @ Aug 20 2020 12:52pm)
Mystical linen robe
Level Req: 5
Physical Defense: 0 to 6
Magical Defense: 12 to 37
+290 Max Mana
+1 Critical Strike
+1% Ice Mastery

ep at 22 for my mage :)


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Aug 20 2020 02:47pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Aug 20 2020 10:01pm)
I try not to post in this topic, just watch it, since I'm not a participant, however I would advise that the club is "better". The average damage is 87 vs 88 (based on your current stats). So it does fall in favor of the battleaxe. And the range means your club will hit more zeros. All of this is true.

Yet on average, you're likely to end up with similar damage total from the two, with higher dps from the club, but that's not even the issue I'd view. You're on hardcore, correct? So that means, if you die, your item goes poof. I would assume that you're probably rolling on /set easy 1 so 2 mobs max, but beyond feeder, it's 3 regardless come 71. Two stunners and you face a severe problem where with the heavy weapon, you have not quite double the delay between hits, with stun shots extending that delay. You can realistically become nearly stunlocked, and unable to run away, should you need.

My advice is to use the club. The ability to react means more than the ability to predict when death is final.

If you disagree, I respect that, I do ask that, since I'm not involved in this beyond a simple piece of advice, if you wish to discuss further, please pm me. ♥


Actually I don't disagree, I do however know how to counter stun lock even when facing 3 stunners in a wave using Heavy weapons, just change to heal and spam the door while above 50% life bar and re make new game. Note: Also done this technique vs 2 stunners and Pawfulgore (while Pulfulgore was in the middle of his Quick strike phase).

Thanks for the advice, it also helps with anyone else doing bufcore runs who reads it.
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Back to topic... this is a very interesting find if I was doing a Mage / Rogue Bufcore character;

Mythical cotton robe II
Physical Defense: 0 to 3
Magical Defense: 6 to 18
+10 Intelligence
+192 Max Mana
+1 Critical Strike
+1 to 3 Mana per Attack
+1 Jubilance

Pity not a TierIII with 15 Int / 292 max mana ... :D
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Quote (fzy @ Aug 17 2020 10:54am)
back in action burt this time slower and not on mobile :P

https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?c=3&i=179027&p=527590


Nice to see you back :)

Quote (izParagonzi @ Aug 20 2020 02:47pm)
Actually I don't disagree, I do however know how to counter stun lock even when facing 3 stunners in a wave using Heavy weapons, just change to heal and spam the door while above 50% life bar and re make new game. Note: Also done this technique vs 2 stunners and Pawfulgore (while Pulfulgore was in the middle of his Quick strike phase).

Thanks for the advice, it also helps with anyone else doing bufcore runs who reads it.
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Back to topic... this is a very interesting find if I was doing a Mage / Rogue Bufcore character;

Mythical cotton robe II
Physical Defense: 0 to 3
Magical Defense: 6 to 18
+10 Intelligence
+192 Max Mana
+1 Critical Strike
+1 to 3 Mana per Attack
+1 Jubilance

Pity not a TierIII with 15 Int / 292 max mana ... :D


It's still quite a nice robe for even non bufcore casters imo
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Aug 20 2020 09:19pm
Mythical ebonwood staff
Level Req: 30
Damage: 57 to 152

+10 Intelligence
+2 Critical Strike
+2% Damage Return
+2% Glancing Blow
+3% Earth Mastery

Found the fail staff :cry:
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Aug 21 2020 12:32am
Quote (Arturo @ 21 Aug 2020 00:46)
Nice to see you back :)



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Aug 21 2020 12:59pm
LMFAO - just fought an ep for 20+ minutes and ate over 100 fish. Here is what I got:

Magical ice XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 70 to 84
Mana Cost: 109

+1 to 1 Life per Attack

Magical earth XII
Level Req: 45
Spell Damage: 48 to 84
Mana Cost: 93

+1 to 30 Mana per Kill

I guess at least I might make 2fg.

Chip


This post was edited by chipper10 on Aug 21 2020 01:24pm
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Aug 22 2020 03:21pm
just passed

got me a bufurai
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Quote (TravisWSN @ Aug 22 2020 04:21pm)
just passed

got me a bufurai


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