Quote (TTim @ Feb 1 2019 12:08pm)

27 death in my my 800+ mq.s thats fine with me, i know why and when i died, so im rly not worried me dieing in hc if i ever tried it out.

100 vit is for is headhunter, if i was any feeder class i would prolly just have 60 buy 79-83 is pretty rough. and i dont wanna lose my prof. so im not sure why you are crying over this.. when i do group whistle climb, i do 60 vit 70 if a mediocre group

whistle is a part of the game, and a faster way to get gp if that is what u are into, or get higher class´s/potential reset. but yes you lose some aspects of the game. thats why i solo alot, cuz i actually like the game.


i dont see why it is funny i go 100 vit on my headhunter, 3 monsters at 80+ can easily take your full hp bar and i use wild heals, so there is not consistant sustain..
if i was any feeder class i would prolly just have 60 buy 79-83 is pretty rough. and i dont wanna lose my prof. so im not sure why you are crying over this.. when i do group whistle climb, i do 60 vit 70 if a mediocre group


stop cry

Quote (Bob888 @ Jan 31 2019 01:48pm)

In hardcore you can't die!

Quote (izParagonzi @ 1 Feb 2019 00:45)

:rofl: mao again (and you call that crying), how many posts did you make in this thread vs Cheeya, now those were outright childish outbursts, but that is funny as fuck.

You and Cheeya both have headhunters, you have 82 Ranks and Cheeya 83 Ranks. It is funny you trash him when he doesn't even have 1 death, otherwise he would have 0 Ranks. But you are lucky, you can afford to die, you can make up the 10% loss in prof points after death and then continue forward.

You come up with some lame excuses to prove your point, I don't give a fuck about group climbs anymore, but, when I was in group runs, we stopped whistling after 2 times testing it out and never went back... yes it is part of the game, but does everyone have to adhere to your antics and way to play the game? NO, get off your high horse and stop crying like a bitch about how we have to play like you... what a joke. Whistling is a joke, it makes the game too damn easy and all those that admire it are hooked on it like Junkies hooked on Crack. Well, that is the impression I get from Meridius and you... whistle, is so damn good, you do it this way and it gets better, oh man, give me more. What a pack of junkies.

Yup... kinda got hyped in the previous paragraph, but it got that heart pumping to rage out and start slashing on ladder... :lol:
Well, after I get some more Bourbon and Cigs.

Quote (BWConformity @ 1 Feb 2019 00:16)

Pretty sure I got all ya’ll beat in the death category!

https://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?c=3&i=435425&p=497190

Quote (izParagonzi @ 31 Jan 2019 23:52)

As I have stated in a previous thread to you, you don't play the game different from me when I played SC, you aren't special. Look at your headhunter with 27 deaths, damn that is a lot. My Rank 22 Sword character only had 22 Deaths... what is your highest Rank on that Headhunter? You are lucky though, you got to Headhunter, I only ever got to Warlock.

I play Hardcore because I want to get high ranks without any deaths, pity that some of my Rank 10-15 main characters died because of Lag (packet transfer speed and number of gateways are a bitch for me), thus loss of some nice gear. And of course because of my own stupidity with other characters. Hence the reason I play all 16 characters, there isn't a main character with 6 high ranks where I would get devastated if it died because of lag.

I play Hardcore to find gear that I can upgrade my own or trade off so I can afford an upgrade, this means I explore catacombs fully, I do Maps also... these parts of the game is playing the game... if people just whistle, it is basically NOT even playing any of the content of the game, considering that whistling also removes a lot of objectives.

You don't agree with Meridius about the game being basically about GP's, and you do play both solo and group... it is funny that you go 100 vitality on Softcore, but, it is because you have to, just like us on Hardcore... you are playing the game like us but argue like a butt hurt kid over spilt milk from awhile ago. Let it go, you are only trashing yourself in your posts.



You play for GPs by the looks of things, you whistle and make constant remarks about whistle that it seem that is the only part of the game that is of any importance to you, thus, all your comments based on how little vitality is used by this and that and so on is based around whistling. What the fuck is up with that... the only hard monster you get is 1 level above yours... OMFG... what a joke, this game is easy as custard pie being shoved down my throat.

Don't get me wrong, Datis (lvl 157 Guardian) / Implite / Buf / Myself / Atom (and other people) would make a group... we whistled from 1-65 twice... it was a joke, Datis only had to shrine once... it took 1.5 hours, that is because it was mainly only 4 people killing, we explored the last 6 levels and was ecstatic and overjoyed with our first 5-9 EP wave, heart pumping, adrenaline flowing ... oh hell ya, this is fun.

We never whistled again in our group runs, yes it would take 2.5 to 3 hours to MQ, but it increased our chances of finding items, exploring TDs and having a bit of a rush... even if we use more stats to vitality compared to SC, we feel safe when the healer can keep everyone's hitpoints above 50%, but more impressively, 75% upwards.

End Point, just because you play the way you do, doesn't mean you can preach your tactics on those that don't play your way... and many SC players go higher vitality than you have pointed out in your posts.



OMFG Well done... 10/10 buddy, the only post that is related to this topic... Thank you for the advice, but, I would have thought one person who posted v1.09 information could have come forward on how he / she got that info.

Quote (TTim @ Feb 1 2019 01:18pm)

i mean the only childish outburst seems to be coming from you, i have never said people should play like me. if so i would like you to find that quote. what i have been saying all the time, is that hardcore is nothing special, and you should get down from your highhorse about it(you and cheeya)

Claiming you are doing it wrong, is cuz we here in softcore we also explore, and we dont die in group climbs with backrows who stat 0 vita unless you are alchymist. that means, you dont have to go 65-70 vita for backrow toons in hardcore, i would 100% add something, but i would not go above 50 total that is for sure. if there is only one dedicated healer/caster, make someone with paladin+ go healback, it is that simple. that is what we do here in softcore, and it works. keeps everyone safe.
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Seriously, you have nothing. you are just super butthurt, that we here in softcore actually know what we speak about, and you hardcore guys(you and cheeya) are not some sort of LS gods who is above everyone else.


Edit : I love how offensive you and cheeya have become when you both kinda realized that we had a point in terms of game play and wasted vitality stats for group climbs. you went from bursting out about the game and how superior hc is, to just pure namedropping/insulting. i love it, pure gold, top entertainment! ty :hail:

Quote (Meridius @ Feb 1 2019 02:00pm)

Point made by cheeya was that quick climbs in hc are not possible
That has been proven wrong. I think we have a different perspective on the word hard. For me the biggest challenge in this game is to pay enaugh attention so I don’t miss the point when I hit MQ level

Quote (BWConformity @ 31 Jan 2019 17:53)

One of my favorite parts of playing a computer game is that you can die more than once! It’s really really hard to do that in real life!

And yes... you can die as many times as you want in HC too! You just have to go through this annoying process of logging onto a different character after each death :P

Quote (izParagonzi @ 1 Feb 2019 02:08)

:rofl: you are like a dog with a bone, you don't ever want to let go of it.

By using the word YOU, you are referring to me in your post, correct? Yes, let us move on.

In your posts, you have implied that your way is the correct way, and guess what, you implied it again in paragraph two(2) but divert by using the statement Softcore & we... you don't answer to every player on softcore, you can ONLY ever answer for YOURSELF, is this a correct statement? Yes, let us move on.

You state that in softcore people join the group without adding any vitality to their characters, that is fine and dandy, can you tell me what gear the healer is using, or the paladin is using in the group? Is it above average gear, is it better than my level 55 Wild Heal with 57% enhanced effect / +30 Strength?, is the tanker using Enhanced Effect armor around 100% enhanced effect and more compared to my level 55 chain with 0 enhanced effect / 57 intelligence / +6 Armor pierce? Are the damage items from players @ 55 + 100% enhanced effect or more compared to my level 35 Battleaxe 124% enhanced effect or my level 50 Longsword 120% enhanced effect weapons?

If so, great, then that is how it would be done on Hardcore excluding the vitality part... my character with that gear, tanks, heals and deals damage in a full group, even if my vita is minimum 100. And as you stated at the start of paragraph two(2) "Claiming you are doing it wrong" is a false statement, correct. Think about it, if I can use that gear, heal, tank and also damage, that is a good thing in a group, having a backup healer (my character) the Caster concentrates more on killing than healing, the main or second tanker doesn't worry about health, all damage characters are safer.

The difference is this, as a tanker I would choose my abilities differently.
Guardian: Salvation / Multiheal & Retribution
Samurai: Salvation / Multiheal & Multistrike
Paladin: Salvation / Multiheal & Revenge
Monk: Salvation / Multiheal & Revenge (like hell I would tank with this character :rofl: )

In a perfect gaming world, playing without any ping issues based on distance, lag issues, cars crashing into a powerline, having a seizure while gaming, interrupted by visitors or partner turning off your PC during game play, rats eating your wiring and causing a fire, earthquake and all the other things that could happen... yup, we would all be playing that way, but since it isn't a perfect world, it won't happen.

Reality check, one healer in group, you come across 9 evil presence BUT, no one but the healer is aware that he is low on mana... can not town to shrine, take too long and someone could die.... eat a mana comfrey or fish, that 1 action is good, then start healing, but, 3 of the 5 are already below 50% hitpoints, don't have multiheal high enough, or just used healback last way and still charging up... who to heal first... simple... 1 each (3 actions) and boom... you have a spike during your second action... and boom, 2 characters are dead.

There are many situations and circumstances that happen, just because Softcore can have the luxury of playing dangerously doesn't mean we have to abide by that rule... join HC, see how long you would last with little vitality, thing is, don't whistle like a junkie, play the game as you say you do... see how far you get... one thing is for certain, you will most likely regen more often than Softcore.

You say I am butt hurt, wonder where you got that from... dude, you counter argue all the time, repeating the same things over and over... that is definitely being butt hurt, change up your excuses like I do, you might actually once in a while... like I said to you in another post... I bait the hook and you keep on biting... you look good in the fish bowl going 'O' 'O' 'O' O' 'O' 'O' O' 'O' 'O'



Of course quick climbs are possible on hardcore, that is if they want to risk a death / lose gear and every decent ranks made.
Playing like softcore with minimal vitality is not good at all, we neither have the decent healing charms and other gear to make it feel safe.

Damn... I tank / heal and damage in a group wearing 0 enhanced effect armor... what does that tell you... I compensate with more vitality & intelligence.
It is just as dangerous as you guys going with base vitality but using EE armor or going in the back with max damage gear.

EDIT: ONE thing I have to say about my dead characters... I got complacent because my gear was good and took risks I should never have done... I believe that complacency while playing Hardcore is the reason for death... maybe we should just play like SC so we don't become complacent again... oh wait, they are already complacent that most don't agree with how HC plays.