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Mar 18 2012 12:17pm
Quote (Ensane @ Mar 18 2012 12:55pm)
neither should be punished. If it shouldn't be done this way then shouldn't paul fix it?

why keep it in the game for months then just decide to punish the people who used it.

that's like showing someone a super epic weapon then ignoring it for a few months then punish everyone who used it claiming it's there fault.

Obv the game is supposed to be played this way other wise the glitch would be fixed by now or paul would publically state that it's a glitch and shouldn't be used.
or there is always the option that maybe paul just doesn't give a shit.

idk.


It seems like you're totally oblivious to what happened around Christmas.
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Mar 18 2012 12:59pm
Quote (Kickassjoe @ Mar 18 2012 01:17pm)
It seems like you're totally oblivious to what happened around Christmas.



probly am I havn't slashed in quite some time I've lost interest in the game

though the comminuty is still nice.

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Mar 18 2012 02:03pm
I'm missing Natester's opinion here...

He was always seen as the biggest example of integrity in this community, and I'm sure he has a lot of contribution to this thread.
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Mar 18 2012 02:08pm
Holy shitballs. I had wondered where the heck he had been, just thought he was over the drama and left of his own will.



This post was edited by Shannon on Mar 18 2012 02:27pm
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Mar 18 2012 02:13pm
Quote (Stok3d @ Mar 18 2012 12:03pm)
As for punishment, I'm mixed.  I say just strip the GPs.  The fact that they get their "Bonus" stripped in the end and they spent considerably more effort on that MQ (timewise) than other guilds is enough.  We don't have a community base to support multiple suspensions.
I have no idea which guilds have been doing this,


I just reread what I wrote and want to clarify what I stated so there is no confusion on what my opinion is for punishment:
  • IF MM abuse existed, any MM bonus (the GPs MM gives for that climb) should all be deducted from the guild & individual totals
  • I am not stating that a guild should be completely be reset to 0 GPs (not fair a couple idiots could do that to a large guild)
  • Basically, just make it right. Take out the Benefit that cheating gave them (MM Bonus). They still needed to lvl to 71 that climb--so leave that be.
  • In the end, those that cheated will have just created MUCH slower MQs for themselves and wasted their time. Just like what happened with HomerSimpson on his Sword Prof (Not sure why his Focused Heal wasn't reset too though). In the end, it was just a huge waste of time where the right thing would have allowed them to do more MQs and possibly more resulting passes


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Mar 18 2012 02:24pm
Quote (legirotto @ Mar 18 2012 04:03pm)
I'm missing Natester's opinion here...

He was always seen as the biggest example of integrity in this community, and I'm sure he has a lot of contribution to this thread.


If you want it...why don't you pm him? You've been begging for the attention from him and Empire. If Empire and Nate is you're concern, why not pm him instead of beating around the bush in a thread that seems to just get the community in a whirlwind?

I assume from your threads and posts, you'd either

1. Make an alternate site with his pm's visible
2. Post the pm conversation in a thread, with a poll, with the title..."discuss"


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Mar 18 2012 02:31pm
Quote (pele_188 @ 18 Mar 2012 17:24)
If you want it...why don't you pm him?  You've been begging for the attention from him and Empire.  If Empire and Nate is you're concern, why not pm him instead of beating around the bush in a thread that seems to just get the community in a whirlwind?

I assume from your threads and posts, you'd either

1. Make an alternate site with his pm's visible
2. Post the pm conversation in a thread, with a poll, with the title..."discuss"


i did... as you asked, i'll paste our conversation, and he stopped answering...

Quote (Natester @ 17 Mar 2012 21:00)
Quote (legirotto @ Mar 17 2012 05:42pm)
When I discovered about the glitch with the Damage Return thing, I promptly tried to solve it, and I chose you to share it, because I was 100% sure you would try to get rid of a bug of that kind too.

Now, seeing you exploiting the Mirror Maze glitch that Datis appointed, makes me think: "Did Natester really choose the dark side?"


There is a lot about this that obviously no one on the forum has understood yet my friend. I know u hold much contempt for datis, but i thought u could hold that aside when judging me. Maybe i was wrong to think that :hug:


I'm sorry, but I'll be one of those who will bravely fight for punishments to the ones exploiting it, remember that the damage return thing was also a non-hack exploit and the punishment came. I consider you still have good things to bring to this community.

Today, I wonder if you would have done different from Roy with the damage return info in the begin. I'm not judging you Nate, not yet.
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Mar 18 2012 02:35pm
Looks to me like he answered....so you created a thread to discuss it anyway?
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Mar 18 2012 02:38pm
What's the MM exploit about??

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Mar 18 2012 02:41pm
Quote (pele_188 @ 18 Mar 2012 17:35)
Looks to me like he answered....so you created a thread to discuss it anyway?


I'm not the only interested part in this history. I'm not the only one who spent hard hours to gather my gps.

GPs can be sold. This can also affect the ls economy.

This post was edited by legirotto on Mar 18 2012 02:41pm
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