Quote (MutedDrama @ 18 Feb 2010 01:28)

I somewhat like the idea and i was that guy that tossed my beloved hyrid dagger in the trash

Quote (benell @ Feb 17 2010 07:32pm)

If you aren't able to pay attention to your own, or somebody else's gear maybe you should not be playing at all.
I do not think Paul should add training wheels to a game that revolves around the simple act of clicking, but then again wall-mart has a policy where they employ people that aren't potty trained yet so it just depends on how american you want to make this game.

Quote (benell @ Feb 18 2010 10:32am)

If you aren't able to pay attention to your own, or somebody else's gear maybe you should not be playing at all.
I do not think Paul should add training wheels to a game that revolves around the simple act of clicking, but then again wall-mart has a policy where they employ people that aren't potty trained yet so it just depends on how american you want to make this game.

Quote (Moojilsuh @ Feb 17 2010 09:45pm)

how about being able to lock the trash can?

I had an item deleted by some1 that I trusted, and still do, but it was just a mistake.....

Quote (deanjones145 @ Feb 17 2010 09:02pm)

i'm waiting for the

"u just dont get it do u" /sad comment

if ya wanna lend items to people in ur guild, but ur scared they might sell, steal, deleted mute ur item, u need a new guild!

Quote (deanjones145 @ Feb 17 2010 09:02pm)

i'm waiting for the

"u just dont get it do u" /sad comment

too many kids (who delte and trash stuff o.O), un-trust worthy people
and those who want a free ride!

if ya wanna lend items to people in ur guild, but ur scared they might sell, steal, deleted mute ur item, u need a new guild!
if ya wanna lend to otehrs who are new cause ur kind, man ur just tooooo kind!, u prolly would just give them crappy items

i assume u want to lend items to guildies or good friends, and mainly its the issue of not returning or deleting or muting or accidently selling
- issue of deleting, maybe having a do you want to delete button
- not returning, well bad luck for trading with them, find REAL friends or find a new guild, practically i would not trust anyone who i dont know in IRL, sorry its impossible to know, heck i work for the government and i aint on the "trusted trader" on this site lol
- muting, have a do you want to mute button o.O
- selling on market, if after placing password u still do sell..... o.O

Quote (Stok3d @ Feb 17 2010 09:54am)

I think I made a thread on this in the past, but I’m not 100% sure—so this is coming up again (This idea REALLY appeals to me & so many others I've spoken with).

Item Return Timers

Now lets say you want to be the best guildie possible and love to help others. If you happen to have nice gear, you may feel compelled to loan out this gear. This is of course is with an inherent risk:

1) Person could decide to be dishonest and keep your equipment
2) Person could somehow manage to shrine your gear
3) Person could somehow manage to put your gear in the trash can during catas
4) Person could get in a car wreck and be hospitalized for 3 months & not return it on time
5) …. I think you get the point

What if all of the above worries were removed from the picture? It's not just the owner! I know some ppl who use an item of mine that's worth 30-50k are scared to death if it somehow got destroyed & would sell everything and quit LS to repay. What if Paul took the next step in relieving the stress for those with the “haves” and allowed the gear sharing to take place more frequently with the “have nots”. What if Paul brought protection to those who have donated so much money to this site and want to bring a better gaming experience to everyone in their guild? What if the below idea was implemented:

My suggestion:
1) Create the ability to have a timer associated with an item. This timer, when expired, will automatically return the item back to original owner’s vault (and in a newly created slot)
2) Make these items indestructible & non-transferrable to the lendee. No accidental shrines, trash cans, MP sales, Vault transfers, etc
3) Since a timer function would be created, create some type of place where you could see all your equipment that was lent out, to whom, and for what duration left.

I can’t imagine 1 person who would not appreciate this update. This would alleviate many stresses some have in this game (both borrower & borrowee), allow those just starting out to receive MUCH more assistance, and remove the potential for thieves to make out with thousands of dollars of other’s property. I believe this to be the next logical step after Vault creation & item transfer. I believe a much happier & closer community will result.


Thoughts? Suggestions? Additions/Deletions?

Quote (deanjones145 @ Feb 17 2010 07:34pm)

This is a never ending cycle of problems

First, we had the issue of snipering, as we didn't have a proper transferring system
then we have a proper transfer system, then we have issues of people not returning items or deleting items

we implement this and it prolly open another can of worms and more complaints
- i.e people placing too short of a loan time which is against agreement which becomes the new scam

is there a loan system thats is comparable in other games?

had to put more grammer and thinking into these comments lol, never thought i'll be pulled up by someone on forums about this o.O

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 17 2010 11:48pm)

The idea itself is very poor, though I don't mean anything against Stok3d. Basically, when you sell an item, it is no longer yours. When you send an item through the vault, it is no longer yours.

Respect amongst the community use to mean something. That's what it's all about. The community interacts, and when people do shit that's beyond the trustworthyness of a scorpion, by damn you'd lose your trustworthyness among the greater portion of the community.

Now, instead, many appear to wish only to make paul inforce what should be about "I trust and know this person, and believe they're capable of living up to my expections" to "Paul needs to inforce my wishes, even though the basic conception of what this topic is about (lending and borrowing) is not, and never was, what the game was about. How is that anything other than rediculous?

So rather than being drawn in, bring your own spin to it all that involves nasty and tasteless humor, because the people who're voting yes are either the people nobody's ever heard of that want a slide on through, or those who fear the dishonesty of the former. And honestly, anyone who's worthy of being in a guild, is a person who should already have shown they care about the respect they garner among the community.

Hey, I'm told I'm a dinosaur of LS, who doesn't understand how the game works any longer, so pay no attention to me.