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Jan 26 2021 01:48am
Quote (izParagonzi @ 25 Jan 2021 13:30)
+8.11% Magic Luck Effectiveness
+25% Evil Well Longevity

Wish we knew if ML effectiveness worked even if you are not wearing ML gear, the wording "Effectiveness" may or may not be misleading.

Oh well, some things I can look forward to in this event.



Effectiveness in no way implies you get free ml. Only you seem to think it does. You cant be more effective at something you don’t have

This post was edited by Cheeya on Jan 26 2021 01:49am
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Quote (Cheeya @ Jan 26 2021 08:48pm)
Effectiveness in no way implies you get free ml. Only you seem to think it does. You cant be more effective at something you don’t have


Correct, but who are you to say that you don't get ML effectiveness based on Unlocked character or Guild only runs? Are you 100% certain that there is NOT some Magic Luck effectiveness based on those factors?

I would 99.99% agree that there isn't any ML effectiveness with Unlocked characters, full group climb or Guild only solo/full group climbs... but unless Paul can tell you and I what is... we are both fucking clueless aye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn... not sure if overspawn or not, did not have time to check:

Rare bone scale armor, Physical Defense: 5 to 21, Magical Defense: 4 to 13, +5 Life Regen, +2% Physical Damage Reduction

Rare earth III, Spell Damage: 18 to 31, +5 Mana Regen, -1% Mana Consumption

Both found during this EVENT & 0 ml

edit: yup been AWOL too long... not overspawns... but still perfect crap.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jan 26 2021 02:01am
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 26 Jan 2021 01:56)
Correct, but who are you to say that you don't get ML effectiveness based on Unlocked character or Guild only runs? Are you 100% certain that there is NOT some Magic Luck effectiveness based on those factors?

I would 99.99% agree that there isn't any ML effectiveness with Unlocked characters, full group climb or Guild only solo/full group climbs... but unless Paul can tell you and I what is... we are both fucking clueless aye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn... not sure if overspawn or not, did not have time to check:

Rare bone scale armor, Physical Defense: 5 to 21, Magical Defense: 4 to 13, +5 Life Regen, +2% Physical Damage Reduction

Rare earth III, Spell Damage: 18 to 31, +5 Mana Regen, -1% Mana Consumption

Both found during this EVENT & 0 ml

edit: yup been AWOL too long... not overspawns... but still perfect crap.



If you would bother to play more than guardian you would find out for yourself you still don’t get overspawns without wearing magic luck. It doesn’t happen. It’s been over 2 years since the patch where ml got changed. It’s pretty well accounted for how it works. Maybe not the exact mechanics but enough to be sure you need to wear it for it to exist.
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Jan 26 2021 03:07am
Quote (Cheeya @ Jan 26 2021 09:52pm)
If you would bother to play more than guardian you would find out for yourself you still don’t get overspawns without wearing magic luck. It doesn’t happen. It’s been over 2 years since the patch where ml got changed. It’s pretty well accounted for how it works. Maybe not the exact mechanics but enough to be sure you need to wear it for it to exist.


Hey here is a novel idea, how about testing your comment? It isn't like anyone is bothered jotting down every single dropped item during their runs. So, who are you to say otherwise? To be honest, I won't bother since I am testing a lot more important crap for me.
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 26 Jan 2021 03:07)
Hey here is a novel idea, how about testing your comment? It isn't like anyone is bothered jotting down every single dropped item during their runs. So, who are you to say otherwise? To be honest, I won't bother since I am testing a lot more important crap for me.



Here’s an idea... I’ve done enough playing to know this is true. If you feel like wasting time “testing” something like that, feel free to waste your time.
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Jan 26 2021 11:31am
Quote (izParagonzi @ 26 Jan 2021 10:07)
Hey here is a novel idea, how about testing your comment? It isn't like anyone is bothered jotting down every single dropped item during their runs. So, who are you to say otherwise? To be honest, I won't bother since I am testing a lot more important crap for me.


I think Cheeya knows what he is talking about given all his climbs. You seem to like theory crafting, testing stuff and writing essays on your ideas for LS and thats fine. Cheeya plays the game.
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Jan 26 2021 01:13pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 26 2021 04:07am)
Hey here is a novel idea, how about testing your comment? It isn't like anyone is bothered jotting down every single dropped item during their runs. So, who are you to say otherwise? To be honest, I won't bother since I am testing a lot more important crap for me.


Quote (Cheeya @ Jan 26 2021 04:12am)
Here’s an idea... I’ve done enough playing to know this is true. If you feel like wasting time “testing” something like that, feel free to waste your time.


Quote (Monze @ Jan 26 2021 12:31pm)
I think Cheeya knows what he is talking about given all his climbs. You seem to like theory crafting, testing stuff and writing essays on your ideas for LS and thats fine. Cheeya plays the game.


Cheeya also picks up literally every skillable item in every climb. I think he looks at items more than anyone, including you Rex. This game wasn't designed for people to write down item drops :rofl:

This post was edited by FloppyWaffles on Jan 26 2021 01:14pm
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Quote (FloppyWaffles @ 26 Jan 2021 13:13)
Cheeya also picks up literally every skillable item in every climb. I think he looks at items more than anyone, including you Rex. This game wasn't designed for people to write down item drops :rofl:


Gotta keep the guild skillers busy :) I might as well help out if Im climbing right?
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Quote (Cheeya @ Jan 26 2021 10:12pm)
Here’s an idea... I’ve done enough playing to know this is true. If you feel like wasting time “testing” something like that, feel free to waste your time.


:rofl: did you even read my first reply to you?

Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 26 2021 08:56pm)
Correct... blah blah mentioning superstition before Events were even around...

I would 99.99% agree that there isn't any ML effectiveness ... blah blah again superstition before Events existed or v1.32 update.

... blah blah more crap.


Yup... I agreed with you in that entirety... read between the lines and not take it to heart.

Quote (Monze @ Jan 27 2021 06:31am)
I think Cheeya knows what he is talking about given all his climbs. You seem to like theory crafting, testing stuff and writing essays on your ideas for LS and thats fine. Cheeya plays the game.


omfg... damn, I think the last time I saw you posting was like v1.15 or so, maybe 1.2?a or b... nice to see you out and about... I do both, but these days I don't play as much as I use to... I nod off to sleep literally in catacombs quite often these days, can not keep my focus on the game like I use to.

Anyway... nice to see you post up. Hope the New Year treats you well.

Quote (FloppyWaffles @ Jan 27 2021 08:13am)
Cheeya also picks up literally every skillable item in every climb. I think he looks at items more than anyone, including you Rex. This game wasn't designed for people to write down item drops :rofl:


Yup... I go overboard when testing shit out, I mean my prof tests are getting bad, basically including how many "Wave encounters" and how many attack actions during that wave, kills per catacomb to calculate the Monster kill per wave average etc.

All here to laugh at: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68205873&f=42&o=2590

Quote (Cheeya @ Jan 27 2021 09:17am)
I dont need to write down drops to tell you I dont get overspawns without a source of ml on my gear. If you want to manually write everything down to satisfy your overly complicated test you are by all mean able to do it. Im telling you what I see grabbing literally every tier of items for one skiller or another. It doesnt happen.

Rex your first post has to do with unlocked characters. I was a fucking warlock for 497 climbs straight. What the hell are you getting at?


Think you are over complicating my post... I agreed with you, do you get that? Why are you defending yourself when I clearly agreed with you. Do you want me to say 100% I agree with you, even though there is a thing called human error. Damn, I was spouting off the old superstition things that started way before EVENTS came about... dang.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jan 26 2021 02:26pm
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 26 Jan 2021 14:12)
:rofl: did you even read my first reply to you?



Yup... I agreed with you in that entirety... read between the lines and not take it to heart.



omfg... damn, I think the last time I saw you posting was like v1.15 or so, maybe 1.2?a or b... nice to see you out and about... I do both, but these days I don't play as much as I use to... I nod off to sleep literally in catacombs quite often these days, can not keep my focus on the game like I use to.

Anyway... nice to see you post up. Hope the New Year treats you well.



Yup... I go overboard when testing shit out, I mean my prof tests are getting bad, basically including how many "Wave encounters" and how many attack actions during that wave, kills per catacomb to calculate the Monster kill per wave average etc.

All here to laugh at: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68205873&f=42&o=2590


I dont need to write down drops to tell you I dont get overspawns without a source of ml on my gear. If you want to manually write everything down to satisfy your overly complicated test you are by all mean able to do it. Im telling you what I see grabbing literally every tier of items for one skiller or another. It doesnt happen.

Rex your first post has to do with unlocked characters. I was a fucking warlock for 497 climbs straight. What the hell are you getting at?

This post was edited by Cheeya on Jan 26 2021 02:19pm
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