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Jul 4 2011 04:55pm
Quote (derDrops @ 4 Jul 2011 14:49)
wow, this will surely crash some bones :drool:

btw owner update:

Mythical fire V
Level Req: 10
Spell Damage: 15 to 42
Mana Cost: 37

+42 Dexterity
+8 Magic Luck
+1 Mana Regen
+3 Critical Strike
+1% Critical Flux

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+ this:

Angelic mithril spear
Level Req: 25
Damage: 231 to 405

+138% Enhanced Effect
+45 Max Life
+39 Max Mana
+13% Mana Syphon


and a question

why is this item there 2 times?

Angelic fire III
Owner: Rafaels
Category: Stat Charm

Level Req: 0

+39 Strength
+388 Max Life
+493 Max Mana
+1 to 6 Life per Attack

Angelic fire III
Owner: Tetsu
Category: Str Charm

Level Req: 0

+39 Strength
+388 Max Life
+493 Max Mana
+1 to 6 Life per Attack

my suggestion for the stat charm category:

Rare lightning III
Spell Damage: 3 to 31
Mana Cost: 21

+14 Strength
+13 Dexterity
mine


the only mistake is different owners
ur suggestion is ridiculous, since ur charm has 12 less stats.
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Jul 4 2011 05:05pm
Quote (legirotto @ 5 Jul 2011 00:55)
the only mistake is different owners
ur suggestion is ridiculous, since ur charm has 12 less stats.


imo its bs to have the same item in 2 different categories...

also explain me this:

Rare ice IV
Owner: phillygreen
Category: Str Charm
Level Req: 5

+40 Strength
+5% Physical Damage Reduction

Mythical focused heal IV
Owner: KONG3N
Category: Stat Charm
Level Req: 5

+20 Strength
+3 Vitality
+16 Intelligence
+1% Life Steal

the stat charm has 4 stats less and still the str charm isnt double listed

actually i have no idea what the rules of this list regarding this are. can an item take more than one slot? so being shown in different categories or can it only apear once on the list?

This post was edited by derDrops on Jul 4 2011 05:16pm
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Jul 4 2011 06:10pm
Quote (derDrops @ Jul 4 2011 04:05pm)
imo its bs to have the same item in 2 different categories...

also explain me this:

Rare ice IV
Owner: phillygreen
Category: Str Charm
Level Req: 5

+40 Strength
+5% Physical Damage Reduction

Mythical focused heal IV
Owner: KONG3N
Category: Stat Charm
Level Req: 5

+20 Strength
+3 Vitality
+16 Intelligence
+1% Life Steal

the stat charm has 4 stats less and still the str charm isnt double listed

actually i have no idea what the rules of this list regarding this are. can an item take more than one slot? so being shown in different categories or can it only apear once on the list?


I believe it depends on the category. For example, the unspawn lvl 0 scale I own is listed in the EE scale category (190%ee) and also in the str. category (34 str)

Angelic bone scale armor
Physical Defense: 13 to 52
Magical Defense: 9 to 28

+190% Enhanced Effect
+34 Strength
+8 Magic Luck
+1 to 267 Mana per Kill
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Jul 4 2011 06:16pm
Why does everyone take such a hostile stance towards mistakes in this topic, instead of just pointing the mistake out and letting it get fixed people make a big deal out of it..

And derdrops to me if an item is best in many categories it deserves to be there.. like if you found a 240ee lvl 45 lightning with 60 str 60 dex ( unrealistic as hell i know) wouldnt you think that the charm deserves to be in both EE lightning and the stat charm categories if it is the best of both?
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Jul 4 2011 06:38pm
Quote (WeebleWoble @ Jul 4 2011 05:16pm)
Why does everyone take such a hostile stance towards mistakes in this topic, instead of just pointing the mistake out and letting it get fixed people make a big deal out of it..

And derdrops to me if an item is best in many categories it deserves to be there.. like if you found a 240ee lvl 45 lightning with 60 str 60 dex ( unrealistic as hell i know) wouldnt you think that the charm deserves to be in both EE lightning and the stat charm categories if it is the best of both?


Agreed with you there, but to me "stat charm" means strength and dex combined so in my opinion he is correct. Also, from what he just posted above, there is apparently some discrepancy in that category
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Jul 4 2011 11:02pm
Section, Stat Charms

Current:

Mystical ice V
Owner: viet_boi_1994
Category: Stat Charm
Level Req: 10

+16 Strength
+27 Dexterity
+1 Critical Strike
+12% Heal Mastery

Mine:

Mythical wind V
Level Req: 10
Spell Damage: 12 to 54
Mana Cost: 37

+20 Strength
+18 Dexterity
+20 Vitality
+6 Life Regen
+1 Jubilance

Section, EE Leathers

These are mine, not sure if higher ones out there. Some I wont post cause I know better do exist ;)

Mystical enchanted leather armor
Level Req: 40
Physical Defense: 39 to 119
Magical Defense: 37 to 151

+178% Enhanced Effect
+63 Max Mana
+4 Jubilance

Section, EE Scales

Rare chitin scale armor
Level Req: 35
Physical Defense: 36 to 145
Magical Defense: 34 to 103

+179% Enhanced Effect
+6 Mana Regen

I'll keep a look out to see who owns the missing parts of these sections.

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Quote (NevV @ Jul 4 2011 08:38pm)
Agreed with you there, but to me "stat charm" means strength and dex combined so in my opinion he is correct. Also, from what he just posted above, there is apparently some discrepancy in that category


I dont think so, from what I've seen "stat" means str or dex or int or vita combined, according to the current listings, although I could be wrong.

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I dont understand fully why, theres a "Stat" and a "Stat X Honorable Mentions", why not combine those two?

e - A PM answer would be kind, instead of spam'n here more :)

This post was edited by James84 on Jul 4 2011 11:03pm
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Jul 4 2011 11:12pm
Quote (derDrops @ 5 Jul 2011 01:05)
actually i have no idea what the rules of this list regarding this are. can an item take more than one slot? so being shown in different categories or can it only apear once on the list?


maybe price fixing is a factor? :P


Quote (James84 @ 5 Jul 2011 07:02)
I dont understand fully why, theres a "Stat" and a "Stat X Honorable Mentions", why not combine those two?


because then only higher str/dex would matter and some chars in honorable mention category has lower str/dex but really good other stats

for instance, ~4 years ago, charm with 30 dex 10 ls would cost you much much more than charm with 60 dex


hmm, how about sub-category "unspawnables" ?
let's say, best stats charm is this:

Rare lightning III
Spell Damage: 3 to 31
Mana Cost: 21

+14 Strength
+13 Dexterity

and in its sub-category there would be more charms with higher (unspawnable) stats?


This post was edited by barteq88 on Jul 4 2011 11:29pm
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Jul 5 2011 02:00am
Quote (WeebleWoble @ 5 Jul 2011 02:16)
Why does everyone take such a hostile stance towards mistakes in this topic, instead of just pointing the mistake out and letting it get fixed people make a big deal out of it..

And derdrops to me if an item is best in many categories it deserves to be there.. like if you found a 240ee lvl 45 lightning with 60 str 60 dex ( unrealistic as hell i know) wouldnt you think that the charm deserves to be in both EE lightning and the stat charm categories if it is the best of both?


u are correct ofc.
now its just about the set rules...
if the rules say that an item can only take 1 spot at all, the t3s i pointed out would be a mistake. (also phillys armor)
if an item can appear more than one time in different categories the lvl 5 i pointed out would be a mistake.

@nevv: to my understanding hm counts 0.5 stats in the stat category. (in case stat = hybrid according to the front page)

@barteq: i dont see the use for this suggestion as stat unspawns are not capped yet, so they are simply best^^
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Jul 5 2011 06:39am
1 Stat = Str/Dex/Int/ (HM=.5 Stats)
If an item takes more than 1 category for it's respective tier, then it will fill the respective spot. Thanks for pointing out that the T3 Fire only had listed 2x different owners.

@Community: If you realize the item you are wanting updated shows more than once on the list, help me and note the multiple locations. I update this by hand and am confidant that I'll make this oversight again unless it's noted.

Quote (derDrops @ Jul 5 2011 08:51am)
i dont get it :unsure:
can an item appear several times for different categories or only once at all? whats the rule now? multiple entries for one item or not?


If it's the best for that category, it should be noted. If an item takes the top spot for multiple categories, it should be noted in each. So yeah, an 1 item can be listed in multiple locations.

This post was edited by Stok3d on Jul 5 2011 07:04am
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Quote (Stok3d @ 5 Jul 2011 14:39)
1 Stat = Str/Dex/Int/ (HM=.5 Stats)
If an item takes more than 1 category for it's respective tier, then it will fill the respective spot. Thanks for pointing out that the T3 Fire only had listed 2x different owners.

@Community: If you realize the item you are wanting updated shows more than once on the list, help me and note the multiple locations. I update this by hand and am confidant that I'll make this oversight again unless it's noted.


i dont get it :unsure:

can an item appear several times for different categories or only once at all? whats the rule now? multiple entries for one item or not?
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