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Jan 8 2023 03:32pm
Quote (danksmoke @ Jan 8 2023 07:58pm)
Should I quit the game?


So it's upto you i'm just telling you where its at. Either figure it out in solo, but you need to manage to reach level 71, i suppose in theory you could reroll earlier than that, for same difference really, does it really matter if you reach level 71 to get the guild point?
As you said to me in your climb, you had the wrong skill build, seeing power strike and retribution is all you really need for solo for a feeder class. Having more vitality would also have made it easier, as 70 is enough if you had good ee armor, however these are expensive on HC especially rogue usable so using the +dex one is basically you're only choice where 70 isnt really enough and need closer to 100-140.

Or you start trying to join the group climbs,
The main issue is that these groups need you to be using a vault which makes playing from a tablet significantly more difficult as well as it costs 50 fg/month. Generally i make about 5-10 fg per climb from stuff which drops so i need about 5-10 climbs per month to break even for fg.
The other large issue being you need to be ready to join the group when they go up and be a bit patient at level 1 whilst the game fills.
If you can get into fishing/cooking then you have something to be doing whilst waiting and would also solve the fg problem as there's generally a consistent need on softcore for 300+ mana fish and if life fish are cheap enough these generally get bought by death farmers.

The other main point here, this is only an option on softcore.

for HC, these climbs basically don't happen, as it stated somewhere around post #15, this happened 1 time in December and currently has happened 1 time in January.

On softcore even in the EE discord, these groups happen around once per day, the more discords you get into, the more chance you have of seeing them as a lot of players only post in their own discord. On most days there's around 3-5 softcore groups for mon-fri and maybe 5-7 on weekends.


This is what the groups look like from the discord standpoint. so 3/5 means we have 3 players and are looking for 2 more people.



So it's down to you, you already know where you went wrong on hardcore for solo climbs. But if you want to be in groups, i don't see hardcore being an option.
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Jan 8 2023 05:05pm
Quote (Light_Prince @ Jan 8 2023 01:39pm)
Bye Felicia


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Quote (Bigheaded @ Jan 8 2023 04:32pm)
So it's upto you i'm just telling you where its at. Either figure it out in solo, but you need to manage to reach level 71, i suppose in theory you could reroll earlier than that, for same difference really, does it really matter if you reach level 71 to get the guild point?
As you said to me in your climb, you had the wrong skill build, seeing power strike and retribution is all you really need for solo for a feeder class. Having more vitality would also have made it easier, as 70 is enough if you had good ee armor, however these are expensive on HC especially rogue usable so using the +dex one is basically you're only choice where 70 isnt really enough and need closer to 100-140.

Or you start trying to join the group climbs,
The main issue is that these groups need you to be using a vault which makes playing from a tablet significantly more difficult as well as it costs 50 fg/month. Generally i make about 5-10 fg per climb from stuff which drops so i need about 5-10 climbs per month to break even for fg.
The other large issue being you need to be ready to join the group when they go up and be a bit patient at level 1 whilst the game fills.
If you can get into fishing/cooking then you have something to be doing whilst waiting and would also solve the fg problem as there's generally a consistent need on softcore for 300+ mana fish and if life fish are cheap enough these generally get bought by death farmers.

The other main point here, this is only an option on softcore.

for HC, these climbs basically don't happen, as it stated somewhere around post #15, this happened 1 time in December and currently has happened 1 time in January.

On softcore even in the EE discord, these groups happen around once per day, the more discords you get into, the more chance you have of seeing them as a lot of players only post in their own discord. On most days there's around 3-5 softcore groups for mon-fri and maybe 5-7 on weekends.
https://i.imgur.com/zGKqybe.png

This is what the groups look like from the discord standpoint. so 3/5 means we have 3 players and are looking for 2 more people.



So it's down to you, you already know where you went wrong on hardcore for solo climbs. But if you want to be in groups, i don't see hardcore being an option.

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This post was edited by Outraged on Jan 8 2023 05:09pm
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Jan 8 2023 07:49pm
Quote (danksmoke @ 8 Jan 2023 19:48)
I'm starting to hate this game and might just quit again or for good and delete account


Up to you to quit or just accept the game as it is now (easier).

I no longer play as often as I used to, nor do I carry people like I used to either, I play Hardcore solo, and with mediocre or crap gear compared to others, that is because I am a stubborn ol-fart and persevere because I like this game and it has growth.

I saw your posts about Rogue, decided not to reply, but if you are going to use that character class, there are simple things to work on (most stated by Bigheaded).

Vitality should have a minimum of 100 base ... Rest towards what type of build you are going with: i.e. Melee, or Melee/Heal or Cast/Heal or even all three(3) ... but, 100 minimum base Vitality.

Melee: 100 base vitality and then rest in Dexterity (since you start with a high dexterity base).
... Use weapons with the highest Dexterity Ratio, example: Dagger 90/10 or Staff 75/25... forget about Club or Sword as they have high Strength Ratio.
... Use armor with high Enhanced Effect, if these are expensive, then use Dex armor, BUT, try to get the same Level as your character. Example, if you are level 45, then you need a Tier XII (level 45) Scale... oh, preferably Scale.
... Use a dexterity charm in your Main slot to increase your damage.
... Use an EE heal type charm (at your characters level) in the ACC slot ... NOTE: this is just my personal preference at higher levels when your mana pool is sufficient to heal you once or twice to keep you alive.

Melee/Heal: 100 base vitality / 30 base intelligence and rest in Dexterity.
... Weapon: Same as above, but hopefully with some intelligence included or Heal Mastery.
... Armor: Ability dependent, Power Strike / Knockdown = EE armor ... Power Strike / Salvation (Retribution / Salvation) = not so high EE, but has to have Intelligence.
... Charm: same as above, at times you may move your EE heal charm in your Main slot if at higher levels their damage is too much.

I am sure you can work out the rest for Melee/Heal Caster.

NOTE: I do NOT recommend a Rogue solo, I am guessing because of TD detector. My suggestion is the Barbarian because Retribution and Knockdown are his abilities (for Melee build), and I like Retribution / Salvation for the Melee / Heal build (and yes, I use to pump Int to 30 base)... Also, you need 100%+ EE heal type charms to reap the benefits.

Quit if you want, you just need to work around the small stuff.
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Jan 8 2023 08:03pm
He’s lvl 67 hc….would be a shame to quit now….
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Jan 8 2023 08:05pm
I feel like I'm always being yelled at here just for asking
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Jan 8 2023 08:34pm
Quote (danksmoke @ 9 Jan 2023 15:05)
I feel like I'm always being yelled at here just for asking


Is that your perception on say my post or a number of posts that give the same advice? I perceive Bigheadeds' posts to be advice, as the same for mine.

Not yelling or telling you off. As from your response, I feel you have a sheltered life and you tend to give up too easily because you don't like being told off or something to that nature... so you want to quit to make it easier, or you are trolling and posting to get responses to aid you in either your decision so you can later blame them instead of yourself for giving up and quitting something so easy.

:D I am being an Ass ATM, philosophical and annoying. If you want to quit, just quit, you don't need anyone's approval.
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Jan 8 2023 08:38pm
Quote (CARTRACK @ Jan 9 2023 02:03am)
He’s lvl 67 hc….would be a shame to quit now….


he was stuck at lvl 41, i carried him to 66, had some other things i needed to do and had already spent 1.5 hours getting to this point. I did not have a great deal of interest finishing up, i was struggling to get enough regen to sustain us both, i get worth than nothing for carrying him as the drop rate for duos is shocking and the threat of 5 EP's level 60+ meant i was unwilling to explore. 67+ against 5 mobs when my entire build is built around solo'ing was extremely dangerous and i didn't wish to lose gear which cannot be replaced.
Not sure how much type dank has spent attempting to get to MQ but he made some progress. Upto him whether or not its worth MQ'ing, i'm tempted to say it isnt and to reroll to get better stat points and abilities. As i said, 120 vitality whilst using both power strike and retribution and i dont think he has an issue in MQ'ing.
The other issue he has is he's on mobile and had closed the game at least 3 times during the 1.5 hour stint with me, so not sure why he's on HC as this is extremely dangerous. Possibly one of the reasons he's looking for groups.


Quote (danksmoke @ Jan 9 2023 02:05am)
I feel like I'm always being yelled at here just for asking


the LS forums is usually like this, we're just telling you the facts and it's up to you to figure out what you need to do.

What are you even trying to do? If you're looking for groups then you shouldn't have come to HC, they dont really exist. Post 15 would have told you that.
Even for softcore, as i've said before, looking for groups at level 30+ generally isn't very fruitful as you've already found. However given there's more gear on softcore you're slightly more likely to come across players willing to get you over the finishing line.
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Jan 8 2023 10:12pm
I would recommend whistling from now on until 71 since the monsters are easier. If that becomes too difficult, I would park that character and lvl up another one so you can find items to sell off until you can afford better gear to help you get through to 71. After that its entirely up to you if you like the game and wish to continue or quit. Truthfully nobody really cares what you decide to do.
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