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Jun 28 2020 09:06pm
Quote (shadowman1 @ Jun 29 2020 02:41pm)
I wouldn't pick them up, same as tier I items that are basically useless and just there to waste item drop spaces. But, the benefit of a tier I item drop is that there is also a tier XIV drop, and everything in-between. The same applies to essences. You'd junk a tier XIV Arcane essence? Nah.

Edit: I don't shrine tier I drops. I just ignore them. :lol:

You also have to consider the future of the game. Changes will be made. Maybe one of those changes could be trnasmuting essences of the same tier to increase the rarity tier.


Hmm, I tried researching your profile, guild, but, did not go through your characters and what ever ranks they have... so how long have you been playing LS? what is the longest time you continued playing LS? I can not get a fix on your intentions of your suggestion(s) since the previous one where you wanted to increase player base by having a "Non Ladder Slasher" core and this one.

Your profile: Status: Bankroll Managing. ??? what do you think LS is about? FG? You think a new update builds a foundation for FG gathering and you are trying to get monsters to drop essences to bring in the masses? ... Well the answer is no, you are killing the game with it in many different areas because you are close minded to the $$$ sign and ignoring those that have put in the hard work, basically you are just a "Trump" wannabe.

Note: maybe a bit too harsh, but it is the truth, the game needs more things for FUN, not profit, the profit comes from it being fun where more people play, and more people means more income, and more income means more to go around etc.

Sorry... once again, Hell No to this idea... and to be honest, normally I am open minded to suggestions and try to think of another way it could be included to the game... but... it does not even help the mechanics of this game when Paul makes random updates over a random period of time whether it be 6 months, a year, 2 years or more.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jun 28 2020 09:06pm
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Jun 28 2020 09:18pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 28 2020 11:06pm)
Hmm, I tried researching your profile, guild, but, did not go through your characters and what ever ranks they have... so how long have you been playing LS? what is the longest time you continued playing LS? I can not get a fix on your intentions of your suggestion(s) since the previous one where you wanted to increase player base by having a "Non Ladder Slasher" core and this one.

Your profile: Status: Bankroll Managing. ??? what do you think LS is about? FG? You think a new update builds a foundation for FG gathering and you are trying to get monsters to drop essences to bring in the masses? ... Well the answer is no, you are killing the game with it in many different areas because you are close minded to the $$$ sign and ignoring those that have put in the hard work, basically you are just a "Trump" wannabe.

Note: maybe a bit too harsh, but it is the truth, the game needs more things for FUN, not profit, the profit comes from it being fun where more people play, and more people means more income, and more income means more to go around etc.

Sorry... once again, Hell No to this idea... and to be honest, normally I am open minded to suggestions and try to think of another way it could be included to the game... but... it does not even help the mechanics of this game when Paul makes random updates over a random period of time whether it be 6 months, a year, 2 years or more.


No, I'm a poker player, bankroll managing is in reference to my bankroll for live games at the casinos.

I've been playing LS since it was a text only game with cutouts of monsters, when tier I items you refer to as "unspawnables" would drop regularly and we'd junk them. I remember when Paul added HC LS. Do you know how? Because we created a petition (this was before polls were even programmed into the site). We would run SC characters to level 71 with no items and delete the character WITH whatever gear was on them if they died trying to recreate the experience of HC. A lot of people were strongly against the HC LS suggestion back then as well. I'm an OG player, I was playing back when Jaykwik/Datis/Natester/Killer_Stride/themanthelegend/RyanRules were playing, when HC LS was first introduced.

Have some nostalgia:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=14905712&f=272



http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=21518234&f=272&st=0





As for FG I couldn't give a shit about it. I would host LS races first to level 10 with no gear with big FG prizes just for fun. That's what I'm after man, fun.

I used to do contests all the time in the bar and pub section too, just for fun.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64871285&f=104

I think it would be fun to change certain things in LS. I make a post to see what people think. That's it.

As for the Trump reference, I won't go there. I'll just say I am not a fan of him.

This post was edited by shadowman1 on Jun 28 2020 09:28pm
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Jun 28 2020 09:34pm
Quote (shadowman1 @ Jun 29 2020 03:18pm)
No, I'm a poker player, bankroll managing is in reference to my bankroll for live games at the casinos.

I've been playing LS since it was a text only game with cutouts of monsters, when tier I items you refer to as "unspawnables" would drop regularly and we'd junk them. I remember when Paul added HC LS. Do you know how? Because we created a petition (this was before polls were even programmed into the site). We would run SC characters to level 71 with no items and delete the character WITH whatever gear was on them if they died trying to recreate the experience of HC. A lot of people were strongly against the HC LS suggestion back then as well. I'm an OG player, I was playing back when Jaykwik/Datis/Natester/Killer_Stride/themanthelegend/RyanRules were playing, when HC LS was first introduced.

Have some nostalgia:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=14905712&f=272

http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=21518234&f=272&st=0


As for FG I couldn't give a shit about it. I would host LS races first to level 10 with no gear with big FG prizes just for fun. That's what I'm after man, fun.

I think it would be fun to change certain things in LS. I make a post to see what people think. That's it.

As for the Trump reference, I won't go there. I'll just say I am not a fan of him.


:) I am not a Yank, and definitely think Trump is a tool as well... guess I will apologise about that reference to you.

No, I was not around then, was asked many times in the past, just never played it... I have played with Datis, and there are many old schoolers that know him... got to admit, I don't mind his antics even when I disagree with him (then and currently) to LS.

There are many things that should not have been removed from the game and fixed in a way to counter it, now the game is so damn easy it is a joke. So, I guess my input is based on making the game even easier by introducing "essences" dropping where it can undermine the skill itself ... I mean the last 3 wells that I had from around 8 catacombs (level 1 to 55) disappeared after 1 or 2 items in comparison to the old welling in town days...now I have a shit load of crap whites that I am literally trashing even though you can now buy White items.

Well... hope you can make the idea more appealing, personally it isn't appealing even for a beginner to the game since no one will buy any of the essences that drop unless it is something fantastic... which would be a miracle, because in the last 7 years (combined playing time) on LS... I have only ever once found a Unique item that was a Tier I ... so adding essences for me personally is pointless... I would rather have the 1-10 maximum prof point gain per wave increased to 1-15 ... and also increase the chance rate when using heavy weapons.
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Jun 28 2020 09:36pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 28 2020 11:06pm)
Hmm, I tried researching your profile, guild, but, did not go through your characters and what ever ranks they have... so how long have you been playing LS? what is the longest time you continued playing LS? I can not get a fix on your intentions of your suggestion(s) since the previous one where you wanted to increase player base by having a "Non Ladder Slasher" core and this one.

Your profile: Status: Bankroll Managing. ??? what do you think LS is about? FG? You think a new update builds a foundation for FG gathering and you are trying to get monsters to drop essences to bring in the masses? ... Well the answer is no, you are killing the game with it in many different areas because you are close minded to the $$$ sign and ignoring those that have put in the hard work, basically you are just a "Trump" wannabe.

Note: maybe a bit too harsh, but it is the truth, the game needs more things for FUN, not profit, the profit comes from it being fun where more people play, and more people means more income, and more income means more to go around etc.

Sorry... once again, Hell No to this idea... and to be honest, normally I am open minded to suggestions and try to think of another way it could be included to the game... but... it does not even help the mechanics of this game when Paul makes random updates over a random period of time whether it be 6 months, a year, 2 years or more.


By all means man I don't expect you to agree with me my dude, but as someone who was a small part of changing the core of Ladder Slasher, just give me enough respect to debate a suggestion without getting mad or taking it personal.
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Jun 28 2020 09:40pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 28 2020 11:34pm)
:) I am not a Yank, and definitely think Trump is a tool as well... guess I will apologise about that reference to you.

No, I was not around then, was asked many times in the past, just never played it... I have played with Datis, and there are many old schoolers that know him... got to admit, I don't mind his antics even when I disagree with him (then and currently) to LS.

There are many things that should not have been removed from the game and fixed in a way to counter it, now the game is so damn easy it is a joke. So, I guess my input is based on making the game even easier by introducing "essences" dropping where it can undermine the skill itself ... I mean the last 3 wells that I had from around 8 catacombs (level 1 to 55) disappeared after 1 or 2 items in comparison to the old welling in town days...now I have a shit load of crap whites that I am literally trashing even though you can now buy White items.

Well... hope you can make the idea more appealing, personally it isn't appealing even for a beginner to the game since no one will buy any of the essences that drop unless it is something fantastic... which would be a miracle, because in the last 7 years (combined playing time) on LS... I have only ever once found a Unique item that was a Tier I ... so adding essences for me personally is pointless... I would rather have the 1-10 maximum prof point gain per wave increased to 1-15 ... and also increase the chance rate when using heavy weapons.


Those suggestions are all something you should make a poll for man. I am telling you. When we got together to petition a HC LS creation there were a lot of people who thought we were idiots. We didn't listen. We just kept playing SC LS like it was HC LS and running contests to show people how fun it was and eventually we woke up to HC LS. You won't know people agree with you unless you make the poll. When I played in the old days everyone was friends with each other and supported each other with their suggestions, or explained as a friend why they didn't agree. Those were some awesome times.

Datis on ventrillo always cracked me up :lol:

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Jun 28 2020 09:42pm
Quote (shadowman1 @ Jun 29 2020 03:36pm)
By all means man I don't expect you to agree with me my dude, but as someone who was a small part of changing the core of Ladder Slasher, just give me enough respect to debate a suggestion without getting mad or taking it personal.


Your interpretation is yours alone... not sure if you remembered a post years ago where an image posted had me VERSUS LS... that was posted by a friend that also played LS then... :D I argue with everyone, even Paparick and many others will tell you... right down to Paul... my posts here are subtle in comparison and in no way angry... just debating like you, but in a different context that can be derived based on your beliefs etc.
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Jun 28 2020 09:46pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 28 2020 11:34pm)
:) I am not a Yank, and definitely think Trump is a tool as well... guess I will apologise about that reference to you.

No, I was not around then, was asked many times in the past, just never played it... I have played with Datis, and there are many old schoolers that know him... got to admit, I don't mind his antics even when I disagree with him (then and currently) to LS.

There are many things that should not have been removed from the game and fixed in a way to counter it, now the game is so damn easy it is a joke. So, I guess my input is based on making the game even easier by introducing "essences" dropping where it can undermine the skill itself ... I mean the last 3 wells that I had from around 8 catacombs (level 1 to 55) disappeared after 1 or 2 items in comparison to the old welling in town days...now I have a shit load of crap whites that I am literally trashing even though you can now buy White items.

Well... hope you can make the idea more appealing, personally it isn't appealing even for a beginner to the game since no one will buy any of the essences that drop unless it is something fantastic... which would be a miracle, because in the last 7 years (combined playing time) on LS... I have only ever once found a Unique item that was a Tier I ... so adding essences for me personally is pointless... I would rather have the 1-10 maximum prof point gain per wave increased to 1-15 ... and also increase the chance rate when using heavy weapons.


As for the easier part, I'd disagree. I know if I got an essence drop I'd immediately transmute it(I'm poor, no good gear anymore).

Maybe you'd toss it up on the MP. Maybe you wouldn't. Who knows. The point is to give people like me a small taste of transmuting without dedicating years of time to get the masteries. Does this change the top level transmuters from muting essences and making a profit? Nah. It just gives lower tier players a taste of what transmuting can do for their crap gear.

It's like a free sample of ice cream at the mall for me. You're basically Baskin Robbins, so you can make all the ice cream you can eat. You worked for that privilege.
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Jun 28 2020 09:49pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 28 2020 11:42pm)
Your interpretation is yours alone... not sure if you remembered a post years ago where an image posted had me VERSUS LS... that was posted by a friend that also played LS then... :D I argue with everyone, even Paparick and many others will tell you... right down to Paul... my posts here are subtle in comparison and in no way angry... just debating like you, but in a different context that can be derived based on your beliefs etc.


I am a-ok with that :P

The Trump reference threw me off, I wasn't expecting something like that.
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Jun 28 2020 09:50pm
You 2 can just pm each other you know.
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Jun 28 2020 09:53pm
Quote (LabattBlue @ Jun 28 2020 11:50pm)
You 2 can just pm each other you know.


:lol:

Well played :rofl:
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