maybe. or just be more people finally hitting caps, where in many cases it's not possible, like dions ice charm; dion would have 72ee worth of prof lol. but it's dion and he'd still be bad so idk.

Too overpowered imo though ^ ^

+ % Wind Mastery - Adds to the Enhanced Effect of any wind charms you use by the % listed. Also increases resistance vs wind attacks against your character. At the time of this writing, the stats visible on the charm will not change, however.

answered. so not as op afterall.

Interesting info, something to digest. I will consider it. And I agree, with some of what the new mob abilities do to you... It's kind of ridiculous when soloing. Not to mention my polearms are apparently shit now, as between stunner mobs, mobs that are immune to physical for x amount of time, mobs that dodge so it's just another 2s wasted... Yeah. I've already seen a few balance issues. But for now, polearms not a problem, as I'm not using them, and the thought of going 71-101 might be worthwhile, if I'm not already in 5+ tds upon hitting 71. Will take it under consideration, and thanks for the advice.

yeah, c u dodging vent.

I meant your 2ee per prof idea





This post was edited by TaylorSwift on Apr 28 2013 02:24am

yeah, we have like 5 convos going in here

At the risk of making you think I'm trolling more even tho Im not, Im going to try and word this as carefully as possible.

For starters I'd just like to point out he statted some into vit. 72 at level 65. Seems like whether you cast or melee if you want to fight EPs and live, you stat vit a bit. I dont need to play right now to see that this hasnt changed since I was soloing EPs myself a year ago.

Mr. Swift is NOT using an EE robe, but we can do the math real quick to find out what a level 55 200ee Padded robe can do. The defense is approximately 0-140 physical defense, or an average of 70 blocked per physical hit. In fact this is being generous towards the robe assuming every pre mitigation hit is above 140. The reality is the robe would average less than 70 damage blocked per hit when really playing. I hope we can agree that the damage someone would take would be nearly identical whether he was casting with his charm or swinging his staff at the enemies. (It favors the class stacking more int, but I'd be happy if you just said it was the same)

So what I was trying to get at is instead of making the argument that padded robes are better when using a melee weapon and statting accordingly, you could make a much better argument of robes suck giant balls when it comes to defense(compared to other types), regardless of EE amount, and the best caster classes are restricted to them. Therefor melee who can use medium types shine when it comes to reducing damage effectively. Instead, what you said was your group survived because you tanked on a melee monk instead of casting. Thats when I called bullshit and tried to call you out on it. You can argue a HH is better than a warlock which is what I was begging you to do, but instead it was always EE robe melee vs EE robe caster or solo vs group or Im a troll.

The reason why your other argument of mana is not as strong a point is because of the reasons I mentioned previously with fish. Fish allow you to overcome mana issues. Fishing as far as I can tell is required once you get to a certain difficulty. My experience is from using shit gear to kill high level EPs. Its the same as if I was using godly gear on a much higher level cap or down trap doors. At some point you need the extra healing so you need to fish either way. Maybe you havent reached this difficulty yet due to your gear, but at some point you will burn through life fish at a much greater rate than mana fish. Just think about incoming damage numbers vs casting mana cost amounts for the high level trap door EPs you fought. Fish do not allow you to reduce incoming damage tho. So while healing fish are OP, there is a big difference in reducing damage vs healing damage which leads back to the armor type point.

For the record even tho I think EE robes suck, I still use them. Considering overall effectiveness compared to stat robes I think the EE robes are ass in most situations. But NOTHING in this game comes close to the damage reduction an armor can provide and on a robe only class you have to take what you can get sometimes. Its a bad situation but when playing hardcore the small amount of damage reduction could keep you alive when DCing. On softcore I'd still play with the mentality of never dying because I wouldnt want to lose profs.

Your wrong mana syphon works even if you take 0s because it still registers as a cast from the enemy mob. I have the best int mana syphon staff i know of and its still not enough. You cannot preach about arena days they are gone. In catacombs you can no longer 1-71 without regenerating/shrining with a caster anymore no matter what class unless you buy tons of mana fish. Melee has the advantage solo which ALOT of people do and the game now is geared better towards solo play than any update pre-arena.

Group play is only based on which class you have and the gear you have to boost it and how well you click. It doesn't matter if you got top tier caster gear on a warlock if you dont know how to use your class skills.


Recent updates are great Thanks paul!





I use ee robes to tank of every single class they work better than any other armor IMO. My robe does over 140 physical def and i think they work great.

This post was edited by SmokeyMcPot1990 on Apr 28 2013 02:44am

Nice post. While I was not drunk earlier, I am now. I will have to re-read this, and perhaps reconsider my stance on EE robes. Perhaps add 10 more vit, take the added stats on the robe, and worry less over the def. Dunno, will think it over. Good points, will analyze more closely, especially as compared to the damage taken from the 75+ eps at level 60-65 due to tds... Yes, I like your line of thought. I hereby take back anything nice I ever said about you, I was clearly wrong.