Quote (InsaneBobb @ Oct 12 2010 07:48am)

Stop reading my posts.

You say what I say in too few words. Makes me look bad.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Oct 12 2010 10:42pm)

He's saying that whatever the person who dropped the item in the well wants, they have 3 protected seconds to grab, and it goes to them. Whatever is left is FFA.



1. I don't understand what you're saying. Me personally? I have 21K fg, 15K loaned to a guidy, and not a clue what to do with it. I'm looking for shrines, or something useful. I keep 7 slots (or perhaps 8 or 9, depends on maze quest) for shrinables, 1 for something useful. When I go to town to shrine, I drop excess in my vault, then fill back up with more shrines. I have a 500 slot vault. There's lots of rooms for shrines. If I'm in a bad team, I can use them all on ambush. If we hit sneaky, I can use them all on sneaky. What's the confusion? I "help" the newbies in the group by spending my time to get them to MQ, tending to avoid some of the "nicer" drops that won't help me, but might make their day, and helping them get to MQ.

2. Uh... Regen still works, even if a well is summoned, as long as you idle in town for a bit. Sorry mate, you ARE wrong. Anyone can solo well.

3. I don't understand what you're saying. Your justification for this idea that you play god with wellables is that you can bypass what you view as complete shit? And this makes you a better person?

And no, since you are suggesting a change to the game mechanics, the actual programming of Ladderslasher, we can NOT agree to disagree. If you are in a team, IDEALLY the person who most benefits from the drop within that team gets it. Since that'll never happen, anything that drops is fair game for anyone who wants it. Perhaps paul made it such for a reason?

Quote (dapittsta @ Oct 13 2010 01:14am)

I read everything here, and this is what I like the best. I agree, this is what my reward is. Everyone's so stuck on 'me me me' 'we we we' 'take take take'.

IMO, all drop should be the owners of the item dropped in but that's where morals come in. If everyone helps me well an item and someone in the game would really make use of it better then I, then I'll def let them have it. It's just a game, christ.

I honestly can NOT believe there is this big of a discussion regarding welled items.... At first I was like then I was like now I'm like

Quote (Stok3d @ 12 Oct 2010 03:29)

Here is what I've found to work best:  Item being dropped by weller is the wellers.  The rest is free game for anyone.

Quote (izParagonzi @ Oct 12 2010 12:27pm)

Truncated to prevent length issues.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Oct 13 2010 10:26pm)

One more time, if you're playing for the sole right to have uncontested ownership of any drops, you do not belong playing as a part of a team. If you are claiming to be a team player, then you should understand that the entire team is involved in every aspect of the play, and has every bit as much entitlement to any drop as anyone else.

The fact that you can spare the time to pick up and deal with whites at all says you have it quite easy, from 45-71 you are NOT dealing 5million damage, healing for over 1 million health, and responsibile in large part for the success of your team. Wellables? For fucks sake, get the show on the road. We don't need a well at all in such games. We just need to get to MQ.

The more you advocate for a "controlled" [sarcasm]TEAM[/sarcasm] well, where you can play god with the drops, the less I see well as being a good thing to have in group catacombs.

Quote (izParagonzi @ Oct 13 2010 02:54am)

Our team found a well when we were 70-72... we all agreed on what you are saying as a controlled team welling exercise.
It worked perfectly... and they went to get wells from mules and everyone got what they put in, even the sidedrops.

I think the expression of 5mil dmg / 1 mil health issues is irrelavent (sp) when it comes to team spirit

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Oct 13 2010 11:03pm)

And you know what? That's Great!

I've been in several cata games where the group stopped to well. The general agreement was different, in that side drops were FFA.

If the team, AS A TEAM, can agree to such? Then it works!

However, you're making a suggestion that the game mechanics be changed to enforce such a conduct of play.

This tells me:
1. You don't trust your team.
2. Your wealth means more to you than your trust of your team mates.

In the end? If you were to join my group? I would simply not agree to stop for wells at all. I'm there to MQ. And, if you're as respectful of your team as you claim? Seems to me, that would be respected. "A team member does not wish the time/shrines wasted on the well, so we will bypass it this climb".

If this mechanics change were implemented? Any driver could force the well to be used, in spite of team wishes, at the expense of the team's time and efforts.

Again, solid no. Group agreements? I've never said I had anything against them, and have played by them on many occasions. Mechanics changes to the game itself to enforce greed? NTY.

Quote (ChrisNouns @ 13 Oct 2010 12:37)

New command /friendlyfire benell because he gets all the good drops.