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Oct 12 2010 08:37pm
if this auto stack feature were to be implimented could we set an amount of life/mana minimum to stack? otherwise u will just have mass stacks of crappy fishies....
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Oct 13 2010 10:08am
Quote (Cylon @ 8 Oct 2010 06:36)
So the new update has brought a ton of changes, obviously things will take time to sort out but I thought we could use a thread to talk about the changes specific to fishing. Here are some of my thoughts thus far:

1) Fish Pickit - Everyone knows I suffer from occasional bouts of FISHING MADNESS, but I was never OCD about picking up every fish in the game. Beyond the fact that the new update removes my ability to control what fish I pick up, forcing me to mouse over everything and trash individual fish is a very slow and tedious process. I typically only have about 8 open slots as I fish and prior to 1.20 that was enough to only require a few stops per hour to sort out and stack up nice fish but now I have to stop every few minutes.

2) Related to #1 - I can no longer fish when my 16 item slots are full. Prof gain at rank 30 was pretty slow before but at least if I wanted to I could just fish and ignore the drops if I wanted to focus on speed. Now I have no choice but to keep trashing fish all the time.

3) No more monsters in the pond? I haven't run into one yet.

I have not tried anything like group fishing or dark ponds yet so I'd be interested in hearing feedback about those too.


about 3): won't happen anymore i guess as you can fish in cata while the other guys from your party fight a wellmob, another appearing mob would pretty sure cause some problems for the game engine

about 1/2 fish a pretty menu would do where you can tick and/or untick all kind of fish you're currently able to catch (no need to show cod to a beginner) and for every kind of fish a minimum amount of life/mana to pick it up which if set would stack life/mana seperately and if not (in case you fish just too cook the fish) just stacking all fish of the same kind to one stack.
I think it's not too hard to implement (at least in php i could do this in 1 or 2 hours i guess)
This settings could be placed in a separate window which you could enter from Town -> Settings -> fishing settings or simply a fishing settings button in pond, which might actually cause some problems when in cata with a group
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Oct 18 2010 11:24am
Came across a well while soloing and did a little bit of number crunching.

I caught (or attempted to catch) 100 fish from the well, and then 100 fish from the pond.

I'm Prof level 14, and was using a lvl 15 +21 durability rod the whole trial. So I can catch Tier 1 to Tier 4 fish.

I did not count an escaped fish towards the total of 100, but I did count when I had to run away to save my rod.

"Useful" fish is subjective (of course) But the criteria I used was fish I normally keep to cook and resell. This does not include 'junk' Prof-raising fish.

First the well data:

Caught 98/100 fish, had to run 2 times. On 9 occasions, the fish got away (not counted towards the 100 total)

Total clicks: 889
Total prof gained: 570
Average tier fish caught: 2.91
Total amount of Life on fish: 3648
Total amount of mana on fish: 875
"Useful" fish: 25

*NOTE: I caught zero tier 1 fish in the well. I like this :D

And the pond data:

Caught 99/100 fish, had to run 1 time. On 7 occasions, the fish got away (not counted towards the 100 total)

Total clicks: 917
Total prof gained: 595
Average tier fish caught: 2.27
Total amount of Life on fish: 4036
Total amount of mana on fish: 274
"Useful" fish: 18

*NOTE: I caught 34 tier 1 fish at the pond. Not a fan :D

So, basically:
The difficulty level of fishing is relatively the same.
The fish are much better QUALITY in the well.

I was wrong in my earlier assumption, but that was in a full group that was doing wells, and only got a couple fish in.
If you're a fisherman and want better fish, Find that well!

edit: the useful fish from the well were more useful (quality mana fish as opposed to mediocre life ones from the pond)

This post was edited by Mphyoi on Oct 18 2010 11:26am
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Oct 18 2010 01:16pm
Quote (Mphyoi @ Oct 18 2010 07:24pm)
Came across a well while soloing and did a little bit of number crunching.

I caught (or attempted to catch) 100 fish from the well, and then 100 fish from the pond.

I'm Prof level 14, and was using a lvl 15 +21 durability rod the whole trial. So I can catch Tier 1 to Tier 4 fish.

I did not count an escaped fish towards the total of 100, but I did count when I had to run away to save my rod.

"Useful" fish is subjective (of course) But the criteria I used was fish I normally keep to cook and resell. This does not include 'junk' Prof-raising fish.

First the well data:

Caught 98/100 fish, had to run 2 times. On 9 occasions, the fish got away (not counted towards the 100 total)

Total clicks: 889
Total prof gained: 570
Average tier fish caught: 2.91
Total amount of Life on fish: 3648
Total amount of mana on fish: 875
"Useful" fish: 25

*NOTE: I caught zero tier 1 fish in the well. I like this :D

And the pond data:

Caught 99/100 fish, had to run 1 time. On 7 occasions, the fish got away (not counted towards the 100 total)

Total clicks: 917
Total prof gained: 595
Average tier fish caught: 2.27
Total amount of Life on fish: 4036
Total amount of mana on fish: 274
"Useful" fish: 18

*NOTE: I caught 34 tier 1 fish at the pond. Not a fan :D

So, basically:
The difficulty level of fishing is relatively the same.
The fish are much better QUALITY in the well.

I was wrong in my earlier assumption, but that was in a full group that was doing wells, and only got a couple fish in.
If you're a fisherman and want better fish, Find that well!

edit: the useful fish from the well were more useful (quality mana fish as opposed to mediocre life ones from the pond)


THIS!!!

i felt that way the whole time...but was to lazy to make such a calculation :) THX 4 that mate! u r my hero :)
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Oct 24 2010 06:31am
yesterday I lost fishing rod in fishing pond on well. Don't know how : ( Didn't saw "your fishing rod is snapped"
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Oct 24 2010 06:51am
Quote (alienwersus @ Oct 24 2010 01:31pm)
yesterday I lost fishing rod in fishing pond on well. Don't know how : ( Didn't saw "your fishing rod is snapped"


happened to me but not i a well. it just disappeared
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Oct 24 2010 10:00pm
I have done some testing on my own of dark pool vs solo fishing. I wanted a larger data set so I tried to catch at least 300 fish in the dark pool and the fishing pond each.

I recorded the amount of prof points per fish, the tier of each fish, and the percentage of the total that were mana fish. Rather just averaging tier values together I counted each tier and calculated their percentage of the whole amount caught.

Other notes:
I have rank 30 in fishing and I was catching level 31 fish which gives the possibility of catching 7 tiers of fish (Sardines to Catfish). I found no difference in difficulty between solo and dark pool fishing in terms of extra clicking time or amount of escapes.

1st Test - Dark Pool vs Solo Pond fishing. 351 dark pool fish vs 300 solo pond fish:



The biggest thing of note is that I did not catch a single sardine or herring in the dark pool while I did catch them quite often in the pond, so that's enough motivation for me to seek out DP's in the future. The prof points per fish were pretty much the same for both but there were a lot more mana fish to be found in the dark pool.

I broke down the numbers a bit further upon the suggestion of Stok3d to see if fishing in a dark pool with a full group vs solo fishing in a dark pool made a difference. Here is what I found:



So far I can't really see much difference here aside from an increase in prof points per fish but even that is consistent with soloing in the pond.

5 man dark pools didn't have a difficulty increase over solo dark pool fishing from what I could tell, the only problems come in when there's a lot of attacking going on and I was getting hit, this seems to slow the client down somewhat to the point where clicking reel/snag or release were slower. My ping was stable during this testing and fishing went back to normal during times when no one was welling so this might help explain why people are losing rods when fishing in the dark pool.
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Oct 24 2010 10:08pm
great data!
Thanks for taking the time to document all of this.
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