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Jan 14 2010 01:03pm
Quote (Garnier @ 14 Jan 2010 20:01)
Dagger/Axes are the best weapons in the game. Most consistant damage. In the time compared to a Sword you may hit for a low 5-200 damage hit, meanwhile the an Axe you are gauranteed good consistant damage. Even if the Sword hits for a critical, over time the axe will get criticals and keep a steady damage. Everytime the Sword hits low the Axe gains damage on it and lets not forget Axes can get criticals as well. It's the exact same when comparing Daggers to Sword too.

The biggest thing about using Axes and Daggers is that they can be used by every class accept: Warlock. (Alchemist obviously doesn't have a weapon slot)
Most useful weapons in the game and have the most well-rounded damage in the game in my perspective.


Average damage is what counts, and all weapons are equal there (granted they have the same amount of ee)
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Jan 14 2010 01:05pm
Quote (Adversary @ 14 Jan 2010 19:47)
Terms of usage your correct. I am not talking about terms of usage thou.

I am asking what would you use right at that moment. 100 strength and 120dex.
What would you rather use.


I would use the sword all the way, since for me the game is a longterm thing.

I try to get as much prof points as possible and so i would rather want to accumulate sword prof points then polearm prof points.
This is were the terms of usage matter - since i got way more characters that are able of carrying a sword rather then a polearm,
so i get to have the chance of getting better with swords way faster then with polearms. The next problem is that good heavy
weapons are fairly rare and good heavys arent made for the budget of an average slasher (such kicky swords arent either ofc ;) ).

I aint sure about the damage calculation and i never had the chance to test heavy weapons myself - so i cant realy say, which one
has the higher average damage output.

Since i learned recently that you get to have a mentionable xp bonus while driving in cata, cause of the fewer actions you produce,
you should go with morks comment - polearm for cata driving and sword for soloing in arena!

For myself i would still chose the sword for cata runs (also as driver), cause i hate getting too many "wasted" prof points.

This post was edited by n00bcount on Jan 14 2010 01:13pm
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Jan 14 2010 01:06pm
Quote (derfana @ Jan 14 2010 02:03pm)
Average damage is what counts, and all weapons are equal there (granted they have the same amount of ee)


When a Sword hits for low the Axe is gauranteed a consistant hit. Over time every single time you hit for low with a Sword you're axe is doing good damage and potentially can hit for a critical.
When a Sword hits for a critical it's humungus damage, but after time Axes will outdue Swords. I have used Swords and I know even with good Strength and Dexterity setups I still hit quite a few low hits.
Meanwhile with a Dagger or Axe I never hit for zero.

This post was edited by Garnier on Jan 14 2010 01:07pm
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Jan 14 2010 01:08pm
Quote (Adversary @ 14 Jan 2010 13:31)
You do understand why the polearm is much better then the sword correct?


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Jan 14 2010 01:08pm
Quote (Garnier @ 14 Jan 2010 20:06)
When a sword hit for low the Axe is gauranteed a consistant hit. Over time every single time you hit for low with a sword you're axe is doing good damage and potentially can hit for a critical.
When a Sword hits for a critical it's humungous damage, but after time Axes will outdue Swords. I have used Swords and I know even with good Strength and Dexterity setups I still hit quite a few low hits.
Meanwhile with a Dagger or Axe I never hit for zero.


I will happily repeat myself. The average damage is absolutely the same.

Over time a 100ee lvl 40 sword will do the same damage as a 100ee lvl 40 axe, a 100ee lvl 40 dagger, a 100ee lvl 40 spear and so on.

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Jan 14 2010 01:09pm
Quote (derfana @ Jan 14 2010 02:08pm)
I will happily repeat myself. The average damage is absolutely the same.

Over time a 100ee lvl 40 sword will do the same damage as a 100ee lvl 40 axe, a 100ee lvl 40 dagger, a 100ee lvl 40 spear and so on.


In conclusion - This debate could be compared if you believe in God or not, it's based on your own opinion. Nobody can really be 100% correct or wrong.
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Jan 14 2010 01:09pm
I would rather use the sword, if I were going to kill in arena right at the moment.
I would rather use the polearm, if I were going to kill wells right at the moment, and this is just my personal style, what I'd rather do. :)
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Jan 14 2010 01:10pm
Quote (Garnier @ 14 Jan 2010 20:09)
In conclusion - This debate could be compared if you believe in God or not, it's based on your own opinion. Nobody can really be 100% correct or wrong.


No, it's based on simple mathematics.

http://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=3

Feel free to calculate it through if you don't believe me.
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Jan 14 2010 01:14pm
i dont have any weapons but heavies, but if i had the choice between those 2 i would go for the sword for sure. no doubt. its too much difference in ee to prefer the heavy weapon.
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Jan 14 2010 01:14pm
Quote (derfana @ Jan 14 2010 01:10pm)
No, it's based on simple mathematics.

http://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=3

Feel free to calculate it through if you don't believe me.


when you factor in defense and dealing damage in excess of life I actually think the sword comes out ahead compared to axe/dagger but from my experience the inconsistency in damage is a huge drawback
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