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Sep 24 2020 05:01pm
Quote (Cheeya @ Sep 25 2020 09:30am)
Idk man.. whenever there is MD involved during one of my solo climbs, it feels like more upper tier items and whites drop as compared to no MD event. The number of trash mods that can spawn is the reason almost everything we find is garbage


Edit: Rex if I wanted to spend weeks to do a single mq I’d play bufcore like you. The reason I invested so heavily is to avoid exactly that. You might be the only person that really liked having mobs twice as strong but the rest of us and I’m sure especially the newer/weaker players appreciate being able to make reasonable progress while playing. There was nothing fun about super OP monsters. If you enjoy endless grinding then you are in the right place, bufcore, where gear is nearly always trash.


+% MD only lasts 3 or 4 days. It isn't permanent, and I don't fully enjoy the MD, shit I was the first to complain about it when Events got first introduced (believe the cycle was 7 days) to the game... how long ago was that? 6 years maybe.

I have to say though, this is the first nerf Paul has done and 99% of the community are not crying about it like when he nerfed Life Steal & Heal Mastery.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Sep 25 2020 10:42am)
The only person crying here is you. MD is shit, so it was capped. Stop crying that it was nerfed. If you don't like the nerf, do some naked play on bufcore. I'm sure you'll get enough difficulty then.

Worthless post, as usual.


I hate the nerf, omfg a nerf that gets your approval for once... what a joke. As the saying goes, 'not everyone will like any changes to the game' ... but it is funny as hell being the only one that doesn't mind the game being harder periodically for either 3 or 4 days of the week.
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Sep 24 2020 04:01pm)
+% MD only lasts 3 or 4 days. It isn't permanent, and I don't fully enjoy the MD, shit I was the first to complain about it when Events got first introduced (believe the cycle was 7 days) to the game... how long ago was that? 6 years maybe.

I have to say though, this is the first nerf Paul has done and 99% of the community are not crying about it like when he nerfed Life Steal & Heal Mastery.

I hate the nerf, omfg a nerf that gets your approval for once... what a joke. As the saying goes, 'not everyone will like any changes to the game' ... but it is funny as hell being the only one that doesn't mind the game being harder periodically for either 3 or 4 days of the week.
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Rex, you assume we're all stupid, and you're smarter than everyone else. And that we're lazy to boot. We can see your character sheet. There's no possible way to hide it from us, and you don't even bother to try.

Your MO: Play heavy classes that MQ between 71-75, drop them at monk, and let them rot. You don't solo monk, you don't play monk, you stick with where it's easy, and refuse to EVER challenge yourself.

I've solo'd monk, ninja, and warlock all with 90+ MD. It was pure cancer every time. Climbs that take 3x as long, mobs that hit for 5x the damage and take 5x the hits, it's just cancer. Pure and simple. "It's only 3 or 4 days omg!" is the most meaningless bs you could say, because none of us were born 5 minutes ago. We all remember back to back to back to back MD events last month. We also remember full 4 day events where you talked up the event and how excited you were, then you didn't even get a single MQ.

We all get that you're a casual who enjoys the challenge of playing the game in HC with bad gear on early classes. But maybe there's a reason that when there's NOT MD events there's consistently +20 more players online than when there is. That's not because they're weak or crying. That's because they don't want to waste their time with cancer.

Edit: Just to toss it out there, this is not a "nerf" as you describe one. Scaling back the effectiveness of things like mpk/lpk/lpa/mpa/ls/hm etc. was a mechanic change that took a lot of gear that people had invested (tens of) thousands of forum gold in and made them completely worthless. Entire builds were made completely useless. That's a Nerf. MD% is an ADDITIONAL nerf. Now the mob has higher stats, more dmg, more defense, and more life. Add to that that you don't charge skills with 0 dmg hits or by taking 0 dmg hits, things like 2 hit back don't work at all against a single mob, yet mobs can cast of skills like stun and such with 0 dmg hits, don't have to charge skills at all, and have resist/immunities that allow them to be HEALED by casting attacks, and life just gets fun. You talk about MD being capped as a nerf. I suspect most people who use their brains think of it as the capping of an EXTRA nerf back to reasonable levels. Because the only person in the history of MD who's been able to say 1 positive thing about it is Cheeya, in that it tends to drop higher tier items, which is great for skillers. :)

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Sep 24 2020 05:39pm
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Sep 24 2020 05:56pm
I bet that what Rex is using is either illegal, immoral or inflammable,
which quite possibly makes his input irrelevant, incompetent and immaterial
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 24 Sep 2020 19:01)
+% MD only lasts 3 or 4 days. It isn't permanent, and I don't fully enjoy the MD, shit I was the first to complain about it when Events got first introduced (believe the cycle was 7 days) to the game... how long ago was that? 6 years maybe.

I have to say though, this is the first nerf Paul has done and 99% of the community are not crying about it like when he nerfed Life Steal & Heal Mastery.



I hate the nerf, omfg a nerf that gets your approval for once... what a joke. As the saying goes, 'not everyone will like any changes to the game' ... but it is funny as hell being the only one that doesn't mind the game being harder periodically for either 3 or 4 days of the week.
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You keep saying Nerf and I only see him fixing a horrendously broken part of the game. Every time the MD event spawned this high there was nobody playing. This game is already pretty unrewarding as it is, no sane person is going to want to play against monsters on steroids. It’s not enjoyable at all and definitely not worth the risk to prof/character/gear. I’m convinced the only reason you refuse to admit it is because most of the gear you might lose to a rip is easily replaceable.

As Dom has already pointed out, the only one complaining about the change is you. You barely even play to start with and never bother going to the upper levels to really see what this event does to the endgame. There is no logical reason that you should advocate for something that negatively affects the whole community just because you like to hop on and kill 3-4 OP waves before going MIA again.
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Sep 24 2020 06:10pm
Quote (Pick @ Sep 24 2020 03:16pm)
Md doesnt yield better drops tho


Md got me the best 30 earth in game.
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Sep 24 2020 06:11pm
I do have 1 question which is quite relevant to discussions surrounding Monster Damage % and the current event:

Are well mobs impacted by Monster Damage %? Like, a lot of the time I'll well at levels way earlier than the tier. Say level 40 to well XIV items for a higher chance of more side drops. This has led to wells ALWAYS being insanely difficult for me. If wells are impacted by MD% though, seems better chances of higher end well drops and/or more side drops would be likely, and with 2x wells, nice pairing.

Dunno if anyone knows a concrete answer to this or has tested, but am genuinely curious.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Sep 24 2020 06:14pm
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Quote (SouthernComfort @ Sep 24 2020 09:10pm)
Md got me the best 30 earth in game.


U sure that was MD?? Maybe it was ML?

Could also be SHL :rofl:
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ 24 Sep 2020 20:11)
I do have 1 question which is quite relevant to discussions surrounding Monster Damage % and the current event:

Are well mobs impacted by Monster Damage %? Like, a lot of the time I'll well at levels way earlier than the tier. Say level 40 to well XIV items for a higher chance of more side drops. This has led to wells ALWAYS being insanely difficult for me. If wells are impacted by MD% though, seems better chances of higher end well drops and/or more side drops would be likely, and with 2x wells, nice pairing.

Dunno if anyone knows a concrete answer to this or has tested, but am genuinely curious.


The first thing id like to point out is bolded... The event is monster difficulty which at least from my experience is not just boosting damage but also health, defense, and healing potential.

I really havent thought about the well side drops but I would say the buff does apply to the well bosses and thus would be assumed to pass and drop boost along to the side drops?
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Sep 24 2020 06:33pm
Quote (Cheeya @ Sep 24 2020 05:28pm)
The first thing id like to point out is bolded... The event is monster difficulty which at least from my experience is not just boosting damage but also health, defense, and healing potential.

I really havent thought about the well side drops but I would say the buff does apply to the well bosses and thus would be assumed to pass and drop boost along to the side drops?


Sorry, that was a typo. Downside of 80+ wpm is I don't catch them all. Yes, I'm aware mob stats, defense, health, dmg, etc. is all buffed, so they end up being far stronger than just the 5x% more difficult than the event lists. Definitely meant difficulty, not dmg.

If anyone has the time and wellables, and wells constantly enough at any given level to test whether it impacts wells, or if anyone such as Paul or Niclas or Kevin who'd actually know can provide an answer, would be super! :D
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Quote (SouthernComfort @ Sep 24 2020 08:10pm)
Md got me the best 30 earth in game.


Less than 10 climbs in a span of a few years got you that :P
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