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Quote (Denn1s @ Aug 8 2020 08:00am)
the problem isnt the typo with wind or wild ... its jsut dump to go melee + cast or hybrid in current game... if you play that way fine, but its not recommand by any means



you either go lvl 1 - 85 cast or 1 - 85 melee there is nothing inbetween ( atleast not in a group to be efficient )


if you go with your example you loose like 30-40% of your dmg ( in the later lvls 50+ ) while you do 50-60% of the dmg in the early lvl ...


in a perfect world you have around

lvl 30 51 in multicast
lvl 55 51 in multi + 27 chaos
lvl 80 51 in multicast + 46 chaos

that should be your benchmarks on HH give or take 1-2 ability points... if you go healer go multi heal instead of chaos


but never mix melee abilites + caster abilities


Quote (Meridius @ Aug 8 2020 09:21am)
actually you go multicast and pillar/piercecast

other than that this is what I meant


Quote (HylianHero @ Aug 8 2020 10:32am)
You were drunk, and talking to Dan. You lose.

Problem with HH casting:
1) No intelligence so no mana pool. I mean NO MANA P O O L.
2) 2% of players have the gear to make this work. I have the gear. I still don't do it.
3) Bad abilities with low% to build up charge. You are out of mana by the time you can get one off. I think #1 N O M A NA P O O L
4) Doing OCC is wrong, unless you are solo. Then you are STILL wrong.
5) No
6)............Thats it.


Quote (Meridius @ Aug 8 2020 10:45am)
3) actually of all classes for OCC Headhunter has the best ability access
4) As long as it is better than melee, it is not wrong


I agree with all of your posts (everyone quoted) and points, yet (YET) it does NOT mean it is not feasible to make a decent Casting Headhunter ... or to be more PRECISE, a hybrid Headhunter, all of your posts are just one sided... "OFF CAST" VS "MELEE" Headhunter... just make it "HYBRID" Headhunter, one that can Melee/Cast & heal ... and before you go off saying that it can not be done or that I DON'T know what I am talking about, I had already tested this during 1.15 days without Abilities, and it worked even though casting mana cost was HIGHER than it is now... and yes... I did it on SC with a Barbarian, Samurai builds.... so how about actually thinking about it a bit more now that you have A LOT OF FREEDOM to make it work.

I love how you all shit on me and think I don't know shit about this or that my advice is shit and so forth without even realizing that I have accomplished it in the old days... now it is easier and more gear availability in SC for items... like I stated before... you do NOT need to collect up a full "OFF CASTING" set, you just need around level 45-55 equipment and build up your stats and abilities to work for the build... and damn now you have Multi Strike & Multi Cast for a Headhunter to use in a group.
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Aug 7 2020 05:12pm
Group OCC is better than melee only if you have a better set of casting gear. If we assume the exact same gear, you'll have more dmg going melee.

The only exception might be pal, because he's the shittest dmg char in the game.

OCC is better if you solo imo, because the ability to heal yourself properly is too good. But until you get to a solid mana pool, it's gonna be annoying. And that usually happens at least around lvl 55-65.

Specially on HH's base int and when you have to be using lame lightnings ^^
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 7 Aug 2020 19:08)
I agree with all of your posts (everyone quoted) and points, yet (YET) it does NOT mean it is not feasible to make a decent Casting Headhunter ... or to be more PRECISE, a hybrid Headhunter, all of your posts are just one sided... "OFF CAST" VS "MELEE" Headhunter... just make it "HYBRID" Headhunter, one that can Melee/Cast & heal ... and before you go off saying that it can not be done or that I DON'T know what I am talking about, I had already tested this during 1.15 days without Abilities, and it worked even though casting mana cost was HIGHER than it is now... and yes... I did it on SC with a Barbarian, Samurai builds.... so how about actually thinking about it a bit more now that you have A LOT OF FREEDOM to make it work.

I love how you all shit on me and think I don't know shit about this or that my advice is shit and so forth without even realizing that I have accomplished it in the old days... now it is easier and more gear availability in SC for items... like I stated before... you do NOT need to collect up a full "OFF CASTING" set, you just need around level 45-55 equipment and build up your stats and abilities to work for the build... and damn now you have Multi Strike & Multi Cast for a Headhunter to use in a group.


One of the best Hybrid setups (there's better out there I'm sure, just don't know who has)? Sure, I think I got you covered there:

Mythical ultimanium axe
Level Req: 55
Damage: 317 to 380

+200% Enhanced Effect
+33 Intelligence
+49 Max Mana
+10% Experience Gained
+1 Magic Luck

Rare petrified scale armor
Level Req: 50
Physical Defense: 16 to 67
Magical Defense: 15 to 46

+39 Dexterity
+60 Intelligence

Rare lightning X
Level Req: 35
Spell Damage: 25 to 258
Mana Cost: 77

+43 Dexterity
+17% Heal Mastery

Charm is something to be desired, but this was my hybrid setup on HH. Rogue/Pally I used my 55 ice. It was fun, but still not worthy to cast on, but definitely self-sufficient for melee solo climbs.
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Quote (HylianHero @ 8 Aug 2020 02:42)
One of the best Hybrid setups (there's better out there I'm sure, just don't know who has)? Sure, I think I got you covered there:

Mythical ultimanium axe
Level Req: 55
Damage: 317 to 380

+200% Enhanced Effect
+33 Intelligence
+49 Max Mana
+10% Experience Gained
+1 Magic Luck

Rare petrified scale armor
Level Req: 50
Physical Defense: 16 to 67
Magical Defense: 15 to 46

+39 Dexterity
+60 Intelligence

Rare lightning X
Level Req: 35
Spell Damage: 25 to 258
Mana Cost: 77

+43 Dexterity
+17% Heal Mastery

Charm is something to be desired, but this was my hybrid setup on HH. Rogue/Pally I used my 55 ice. It was fun, but still not worthy to cast on, but definitely self-sufficient for melee solo climbs.


Cute shit, I love ee/int or stat/int items :D

Love my 55 charm, makes me unstoppable when I decide to use it. Usually don't need it though.

Mythical lightning XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 16 to 168
Mana Cost: 109

+28 Dexterity
+52 Intelligence
+4 Critical Strike
+3% Physical Damage Reduction
+10% Mana Syphon
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Aug 7 2020 08:42pm
gotta have the gear othedr than that yeah give'em hell
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Quote (HylianHero @ Aug 8 2020 12:42pm)
One of the best Hybrid setups (there's better out there I'm sure, just don't know who has)? Sure, I think I got you covered there:

Mythical ultimanium axe
Level Req: 55
Damage: 317 to 380

+200% Enhanced Effect
+33 Intelligence
+49 Max Mana
+10% Experience Gained
+1 Magic Luck

Rare petrified scale armor
Level Req: 50
Physical Defense: 16 to 67
Magical Defense: 15 to 46

+39 Dexterity
+60 Intelligence

Rare lightning X
Level Req: 35
Spell Damage: 25 to 258
Mana Cost: 77

+43 Dexterity
+17% Heal Mastery

Charm is something to be desired, but this was my hybrid setup on HH. Rogue/Pally I used my 55 ice. It was fun, but still not worthy to cast on, but definitely self-sufficient for melee solo climbs.


That setup is extremely awesome, personally if I had that gear and built a Hybrid Headhunter, I would do what you already know... change out the Lightning charm since it is more dominant for melee and I am assuming that you would Melee more than you would casting / healing. Since you did not post your Wild Heal, I can not make any other adjustment to either the Light charm &/or the Axe you have listed (note; that axe is extremely grand, maybe too grand and expensive).

EDIT: again, gear dependent, but I would also make an alteration to that armor... depending on the intelligence of a different armor of course.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Aug 7 2020 11:39pm
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buy lefek axes :rolleyes:
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Quote (derduff @ 8 Aug 2020 04:20)
buy lefek axes :rolleyes:


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