Too much math it hurts

No it’s not a good indicator you’re right. At the same time it’s not mindless clicking to an mq either. Lots of discussions, testing, brainstorming, trial and errors too. A lot of precedent came from that work from everyone. It’s good to have a game we can continue to pick apart and discuss. We can test this one without much trouble and then see if the results match all the math. Again.

Y’all are some nerds I’ll stick to my mindless clicking I mean afk

Fuggin dualscaper

i think
BWConformity is actually right.

If the ee was reduced by 25%, a heal charm with zero ee would heal as good in 2nd slot as it does in first slot which is not the case. (as 75% of 0 is still 0)


it works like randy also said: the total displayed heal is multiplied with 0.75 in the 2nd slot


if you have 150ee this will be an ee factor of 2,5 (that will be multiplied with the (int-5) factor)

so if you calculate 75% of 2,5 (for a 150ee charm on 2nd slot) it will be 1,875 --> works like 87,5ee on main slot

(still the higher ee charm on the 2nd slot will also cost 25% less mana compared to the lower ee charm on main slot like it was said before too)

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If the charm has 0 EE then sure it scales off the base. Why would you think putting a charm in your acc slot would make a simple browser game go back a step (the math is already calculated on the charm when it has EE) remove the EE do 75% of the base and then readd the EE to do a heal.

Edit- point is math or not. you are making it more complicated than it is. Go test it in game and see the difference.

This post was edited by PhiRip on Feb 19 2018 11:03am

I am not making it too complicated. i know exactly how to calculate the dmg with the 2 multiplicators of ee and int.

with easier numbers:

for example 100ee means double of the normal dmg (factor of 2.0)
75% of 2.0 = 1,5 (so the 2nd slot changes the charm as if your factor was only 1.5 instead of 2.0 --> 100ee down to 50ee)

for example 200ee means tripple of the normal dmg (factor of 3.0)
75% of 3.0 = 2.25 (so the 2nd slots changes the charm as if your factor was only 2.25 instead of 3.0 --> 200ee down to 125ee)

i tested this and got the calculated values pretty exactly

This post was edited by ahs_darkhunter on Feb 19 2018 11:46am

very good reading thanks for everyones input

Thanks Alex! I'm glad you are around, otherwise "alternative" math might run rampant in the streets!

I think this 1-page discussion is good evidence that ee is not only the most important main mod but also the most underrated side mod ... for stat-heal charms at least...
As a solo player, I'd give a lot to change all of my stat charms into stat-heal charms with at least 80 ee or so

This post was edited by BWConformity on Feb 19 2018 03:31pm

All I know if again today when i don't even try to factor what the charm may do; I put it in the main slot and i make sure i have enough life missing to get an accurate heal. I pulled 50 heal numbers and got that avg. I did the same thing in the acc slot. I have that acc slot avg number, it's always within 1% of being 25% off the main slot number. thats what a t3 focus. Thats without trying to figure out what the charm will do etc. thats taking the actual heal number from both slot and comparing the difference. just like it came out a few months ago.