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May 10 2011 09:08am
Quote (Stok3d @ 10 May 2011 08:14)
:rofl:


Alright, it seems most ppl are thinking that small tweaks to current game play are going to bring ppl to the LS login screen in droves.  I believe we need to think big picture here tbh.  However, before I step up my soap box I want to touch on the below comment:

The current speed of climbs is absolutely perfect!  RL obligations make 4+ hour climbs unreasonable.  Check the research, there is a reason games like WOW opt for games to be 1.5hours to 2.5hours.  Paul has the timing perfect atm.  If ppl want the season slowed down, add an extra 4 and 5 door class.  Problem solved.  derDrops, this particular suggestion will hurt LS quite a bit.


Alright, now back on task.  The purpose of this thread was to get more ppl playing this game.  How do we do this?

  • Advertise 
      Think about all those facebook games that have millions of ppl playing them.  Many aren't written for fb, but there is advertisement there which gives a nice 1 page overview with a link to click to join an offsite game.  Guess what, this could be easily done for LS too.  Pulling from millions of ppl could easily have say 1% try out the game that click the link.  Imagine LS with over 10,000 new ppl starting up this month!

  • Advertise Everywhere
      Don't miss out on opportunities to talk up LS in the DF and other threads.  d2jsp.org has hundreds of thousands of GAMING members.  Think of LS as a blessing you are compelled to share with the world!  Many have tried it and don't realize all the changes that have been made to the game and need a revisit.  Even more so are ppl who have yet to visit LS--lets show them what they're missing ;)

  • Keep our guides up-to-date.
      Maintaining a place for first timers to initially draw basic knowledge from is vital for newcomer retention.  Not only does this help make stronger beginner groups/players, but it also reduces the elementary questions posed in thread and reduces the need for veteran players to handhold and repeat similar advice over and over again.

  • Follow the Golden Rule
      Luke 6:31 "Do unto others as you want others to do unto you."  It's simple, if you want to build this player base, work on retention.  Be nice to ppl and they're more likely to stay.



Even getting 1000ppl playing LS at all times would completely transform this game and I think that's Easily possible.  Imagine what 10,000 ppl would do for us.
I hope that some Marketing Minded ppl team up with Paul and the current culture is to not accept simply resting on the laurels.  This game has some many more plateaus yet to reach :)


This was exactly my first thought upon reading the topic title
Seriously look how famous stupid stupid games have become because of Facebook, MySpace, and Mobile apps
Would create many new player by adding this game to those !
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May 10 2011 09:15am
If I had to pay money to play this game, I wouldn't play.
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May 10 2011 09:19am
Quote (MrMoJoRising @ May 10 2011 11:15am)
If I had to pay money to play this game, I wouldn't play.



Priceless Jim. Priceless. :rofl:
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May 10 2011 09:19am
Quote (MrMoJoRising @ 10 May 2011 17:15)
If I had to pay money to play this game, I wouldn't play.


but u do and u are paying money
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May 10 2011 09:24am
Quote (TheBert @ May 10 2011 11:08am)
This was exactly my first thought upon reading the topic title
Seriously look how famous stupid stupid games have become because of Facebook, MySpace, and Mobile apps
Would create many new player by adding this game to those !


If we want to TRULY grow LS, then I believe Paul needs to incorporate some Marketing minded ppl. The bottlenecks of many successful small businesses that quickly & greatly expand is that the person at the top still tries to do everything. This can eventually lead to choking out the company. As many forget (and possibly even himself), he is only human. He codes for this site as a whole, does DF work, moderates, keeps all the tagged ppl in check, codes LS, upkeeps, looks for bots, battles hackers breaking into his site, etc.

I believe a smart business move would be to bring someone on whose sole responsibility is to bring ppl to this site. Yes, it may require a $$$ investment into: banners, BlizzCon, Advertising, etc. I also think the primary focus should be getting Ladder Slasher accessible through FaceBook. As much as d2jsp.org is the social Gaming Website, I think this would be a VERY smart move both for site #s and Ladder Slasher. Some serious time could be spent making the 1 pager with a link that so many other games have. IMO, nothing else will make a bigger impact on this game for #s than this single step I am describing here. Our #s WILL grow by the 1000s this way.

This post was edited by Stok3d on May 10 2011 09:24am
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May 10 2011 09:26am
I have pretty decent gear, and I don't even want to play this game. How are you going to entice people with no fg and no gear to play, when you can't even get people with good gear to play?
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May 10 2011 09:27am
Quote (Stok3d @ May 10 2011 04:14pm)
:rofl:


Alright, it seems most ppl are thinking that small tweaks to current game play are going to bring ppl to the LS login screen in droves.  I believe we need to think big picture here tbh.  However, before I step up my soap box I want to touch on the below comment:

The current speed of climbs is absolutely perfect!  RL obligations make 4+ hour climbs unreasonable.  Check the research, there is a reason games like WOW opt for games to be 1.5hours to 2.5hours.  Paul has the timing perfect atm.  If ppl want the season slowed down, add an extra 4 and 5 door class.  Problem solved.  derDrops, this particular suggestion will hurt LS quite a bit.


Alright, now back on task.  The purpose of this thread was to get more ppl playing this game.  How do we do this?

  • Advertise 
      Think about all those facebook games that have millions of ppl playing them.  Many aren't written for fb, but there is advertisement there which gives a nice 1 page overview with a link to click to join an offsite game.  Guess what, this could be easily done for LS too.  Pulling from millions of ppl could easily have say 1% try out the game that click the link.  Imagine LS with over 10,000 new ppl starting up this month!

  • Advertise Everywhere
      Don't miss out on opportunities to talk up LS in the DF and other threads.  d2jsp.org has hundreds of thousands of GAMING members.  Think of LS as a blessing you are compelled to share with the world!  Many have tried it and don't realize all the changes that have been made to the game and need a revisit.  Even more so are ppl who have yet to visit LS--lets show them what they're missing ;)

  • Keep our guides up-to-date.
      Maintaining a place for first timers to initially draw basic knowledge from is vital for newcomer retention.  Not only does this help make stronger beginner groups/players, but it also reduces the elementary questions posed in thread and reduces the need for veteran players to handhold and repeat similar advice over and over again.

  • Follow the Golden Rule
      Luke 6:31 "Do unto others as you want others to do unto you."  It's simple, if you want to build this player base, work on retention.  Be nice to ppl and they're more likely to stay.



Even getting 1000ppl playing LS at all times would completely transform this game and I think that's Easily possible.  Imagine what 10,000 ppl would do for us.
I hope that some Marketing Minded ppl team up with Paul and the current culture is to not accept simply resting on the laurels.  This game has some many more plateaus yet to reach :)



OK..i get what you are saying here Nick .....ADVERTISE!!

Advertise what exactly???

W8 for the next update??

We slashers who have been around a long time WILL w8 for the updates because we have way too much invested not to...new players WILL NOT :(

As far as advertising goes..you cannot tell people about a game and have them come and slash when they HAVE NO FG AND CAN'T MAKE ENOUGH for better gear!

Sure they can grab some crap items and try to slash but most will give up when they see..they get NO REWARD for their efforts really. 99% of the items they do find

are worthless except as shrinables and they can't find an attraction in the game (ie) making a bit of fg every climb to improve themselves...hence getting kicked from a lot

of games. Some of us have taken people under their wings...helping them climb/donating fg/gear...but it is not enough. Rus asked how we could bring in new slashers

not how the game should be played or whether we should be nice to people. The game as it is now is far better than it was but there still needs to be a way for people

to get attracted to a game and KEEP them playing and THAT is making in-game gold at a far faster rate than 1fging your self to death..That is JUST not enough and people

who say it is are idiots. Why do people rush off to play other games when they reset (ie) d2..so they can MAKE FG.. so they can KEEP playing this one. Most skillers here make 0 fg from

spending HOURS and HOURS at skillling when other games give rewards for putting in the time. Most slashers here been playing the game for a few years now and we will sit

and w8 for the next update but some even have to start selling good gear JUST to keep slashing. Game play does not need to be altered imo although i am sure there are things

coming that will change that as usually happens in an update. Give people a NEW way to make some FG so that they are ATTRACTED to the game in the first place and are rewarded for

staying. As far as being nice to others...you know i am :D

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May 10 2011 09:31am
All the brainstorming is good, but we get "If you don't like my game, don't play it"

I think you just sink or swim.
I have opinions - (I don't like the fast climbs, because now if you can only do a partial climb due to family responsibilities, or because you crash after 96 hours on duty at work, you cannot find a game)
But what's the point?

InB4 I get warned for being negative.

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May 10 2011 09:32am
no ls economy = no LS players :rofl:

can we DO ANYTHING with GP's ? :evillol:

Maybe one day Paul will make it so GP's count for something besides prestige --- till then worthless B)

when players can make more fg regularly on d2 than playing LS --- doubt anyone will start with the current PAY TO PLAY ladder slasher model :lol:

If anyone on HC could reset - you might see a few new players --- perhaps :cheers:

This post was edited by CyberJunkee on May 10 2011 09:33am
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May 10 2011 09:45am
Quote (Braxton11 @ 10 May 2011 17:26)
I have pretty decent gear, and I don't even want to play this game. How are you going to entice people with no fg and no gear to play, when you can't even get people with good gear to play?


this is a very good quote :))

Some of your ideas are very consistent.

Some of you hurt TJ :( If you want to be better at this game you must pay more...
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