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New Axe test (to find out if ratio is important)

This test is about the Str/Dex-ratio of Weapons. It also helps to determine wich weapons are best using wich statting. If you dont want to read the whole calculations, proceed to conclusion. But i strongly recommend to take a look at the facts before doing so.

300 Attacks with each setup, also tankchain worn to make received crit more important. Str + Dex were low, but the total Str+Dex was comparable (see below). Tests were run in black no EP's

Weapon for both tests:

Rare tintitanium axe, (Prof:4)
Damage: 194 to 233,
+98% Enhanced Effect,
+30% Heal Mastery

Armor for both tests:

Rare diamond chain mail,
Physical Defense: 82 to 207,
Magical Defense: 0 to 108,
+151% Enhanced Effect,
+3 Intelligence

Dex Setup:

Mystical fire XI,
Spell Damage: 65 to 173,
+29 Dexterity,
+3% Mind Numb,
+10% Heal Mastery


Str: 55
Dex: 59
Int: 102
Vit: 55

Hits: 300
Dam dealt (low/avg/max): 123 | 223 | 512
Dam received (hits/total amount/avg amount): 429 | 1900 | 4,429


Str Setup:

Angelic wild heal X,
Heals: 19 to 197,
+33 Strength,
+1 to 11 Mana per Kill,
+1% Parry,
+19% Heal Mastery

Str: 88
Dex: 30
Int: 102
Vit: 55

Hits: 300
Dam dealt (low/avg/max): 111 | 221 | 528
Dam received (hits/total amount/avg amount): 420 | 3399 | 8,093

Evaluation:
Setup #1 had a total str + dex of 114 (55|59 -> Ratio 1:1). Avg dam: 223
Setup #2 had a total str + dex of 118 (88|30 -> Ratio 3:1). Avg dam: 221

Considering the use of an Axe (ratio 0,5:0,5), setup #1 performed slightly better, but not much: 100% * (223/221) * (118/114) = 104.4%.
These 4,4% are not much considering the perf ratio of 1:1 with the horrible ratio of 3:1.
forget about the ratio! Only stat wich gives you the biggest bonus
-dex for daggers
-dex for axes (defense)
-str for clubs

The defense with the dex-setup was MUCH better. This is because the crits were less severe than with the str-setup.
dex is better than str even for axes

Conclusion (if you dont want to read the rest):
-Trying to achieve the stated ratio is useless (ex: 100Str/100Dex for axes, better go with full dex)
-Daggers are best weapons, because they profit best from a high dex with a bonus of 0,9%ee per point. Also, almost every class up to Ninja is able to use them.
-In general, weapons that focus on 1 stat are best, because you get the best damage by focusing on that stat.
-Axes are worst weapons, because you only get 0,5% ee using them

It is pointless to use daggers with a almost 1:1 ratio of str and dex.

You don't need to do testing. The ratios are self explanatory. You get close to the ratio and your damage will be the best it can with the EE of your weapon.

It is like 6th grade math. And I have no attitude towards you. I just think it is pretty retarded the way you tested that.

wrong. see post #42

Good enough for you?

My god you have no knowledge of how math works at all. How did you graduate high school?

The reason why the damage ended up roughly the same is because the increase of the stats was not high at all. When you are running a 50%/50% ratio 30 str points is not going to affect the overall damage of the build and considering the dex decreased and the dex did not increase.

If you want to compare stuff correctly you need to use higher increments of damage.

At 71 I tested 7 different types of str and dex and it confirmed that having a stable ratio of str and dex in the same ball park gives you the best damage.

And my sentiment is mainly aimed at Paparick doing a test with a dagger with an almost even/close amount of str/dex.

You people need to realize that the str/dex ratio and dex itself is factored into the criting process. Paul stated that.

This post was edited by DeafBoy on Oct 8 2010 11:48am

Yep, it is

Dagger > all

Edit:


The test aimed at the ratio.
Change of ratio (1:1 and 3:1 on axe) + same total of stats on both tests = same damage
ratio not important, but total amount of stats is

Your "explanation" of my test being nonsense is just ridiculous, as is your guess about my education. AND you did not make any tests, did you?

This post was edited by Harpel on Oct 8 2010 11:51am

English is not my native language so please confirm.

Is "The latter" the first option or the second?





Ty very much guys

This post was edited by Svartermetalisk on Oct 8 2010 12:00pm

Second. The first would be "the former."

2nd

getting some sleep.