Quote (Heroes_Landmark @ Jan 20 2010 07:01am)

why are you trying to change it from hc to sc ?!
once your dead you remain dead this is how it is now and how it should be in future becaue this is HARDCORE

Quote (benell @ Jan 20 2010 07:02am)

resurrection is gay, play to win

Quote (izParagonzi @ 19 Jan 2010 13:59)

I have read all... yes... I am like that... it gives me an understanding to what some of the players think when gaming...

Even though I play SC... there are no differences to the game MECHANICS (please understand this... mechanics)... except that DEATH is death and you lose everything.
HARDCORE:
... To Cheat Death
... To Survive (well... if you leave a combat while only having 50% life... then that is just cowardice... run @ 33% life remaining
... To Gamble with the odds while having junk gear
... To MQ at least once... but you think to yourself... "yes... I can do this again... it is easier now that I have done it this time"
... Ohh look... I get rewarded with proficiencies... I can upgrade those to improve my chances... even if it is only 1% more... it is extra

I basically play SC the same way... and I play HC in D2 (well use to)... so I know the outcome.

I am also assuming (based on what I use to do in D2)... is hoard a 2nd SET... in case of death... is this another reason why the items on HC are harder to get?
Be honest now... how many of the top players in HC and top guild... hoard another set just incase of RIP?

There are two (2) major changes that have most likely made a few people stop continue'ing with HC
1. Muting changed ... and alot of the (not the sticklers) greedy people left... could not make fg etc (excluding the factor of buying gear to upgrade)
2. Addition of "Magical Defense"... meaning casters are no longer the cookie-cutter build for Ladder Slasher...

I noticed late last year the attempt to get some SC people converted to HC... with a prize of Forum Gold etc... this was a good idea... I am not sure
what the outcome was.. hope it worked out.

Anyway... can not see the two (2) things being changed back... so we need something else... specifically for HARDCORE... so just a random thought below...

A ONE off Resurrection FEE: (HOLD ON... READ ON)
The rules are simple:
1. Yes your character has been resurrected
2. This can only be used ONCE per ACCOUNT... that is right... per your account... not the character
3. You DO NOT have your gear on them... they are resurrected NAKED

Now you are thinking... "HANG ON... wtf is the point of that... no gear and all that... waste of time... so HELL NO!!!!!"
... the thing is... you come back with your proficiencies intact... and whatever class you were.

Now we can take it a little further by saying:
4. Resurrected as a FEEDER class
5. Resurrected with ONLY 50% of your proficiencies
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Remember... only a suggestion for HARDCORE... I mean... if your character has been worked on for like 1-3 years and suddenly you die from some form of lag etc.. at least... resurrection can lighten the burden...

Quote (MyAddiction @ 19 Jan 2010 20:10)

you keep saying that the mute change caused "greedy" people to leave

that is completely incorrect... the greedy people left a long time ago

when muting was changed this game became no longer a RPG.. you cannot upgrade gear, there is no market, you can put all the time you want into the game and you will come out with such a small reward its frustrating

Quote (benell @ 19 Jan 2010 14:13)

You are so wrong lol. But then again you are a quitter

Quote (MyAddiction @ 19 Jan 2010 12:10)

you keep saying that the mute change caused "greedy" people to leave

that is completely incorrect... the greedy people left a long time ago

when muting was changed this game became no longer a RPG.. you cannot upgrade gear, there is no market, you can put all the time you want into the game and you will come out with such a small reward its frustrating

Quote (Adversary @ 19 Jan 2010 12:26)

Pretty sure it will be good when paul makes a new update

Quote (J_B @ Jan 19 2010 01:15pm)

exactly
it is now almost impossible to upgrade your gear
the stuff that is for sale is massively inflated
and that's not just because of the rarity of it
it's because we all payed much more when there was more fg flowing, and we don't want to sell at a loss so nothing ends up being sold

if we aren't getting muting back, we need something in the meantime that provides a solid flow of fg
back then we could expect an income of 500fg per climb off high level mutables
that was something solid you can count on to have fg for upgrades every once in a while
now I'm not even making enough to keep my vault

Quote (Joshie @ Jan 19 2010 07:22pm)

Vouch -- the game was fun when you had opportunity to upgrade your equipment, make your climbs faster each climb you make...

I really don't have fun playing anymore -- looking forward to see what the next few updates can bring to keep me and some of the other "old timers" to stay here, because
I see many of them leaving this game.

Quote (arxyn @ 19 Jan 2010 14:23)

Well I can only expect new updates to be more multiplayer (catacombs) focused since Njaguar already stated thats where he wants the game to go.  Sadly multiplayer isn't where it's at on HC...

Quote (arxyn @ Jan 19 2010 02:23pm)

*snip*  Sadly multiplayer isn't where it's at on HC...