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Oct 19 2023 05:06pm
Quote (effinA @ Oct 20 2023 01:27am)
I don't think trying to make all categories "fair" should be a major concern. Could maybe use the different categories to appeal to different groups of people. Newb category, Elite category, and something in the middle (if possible).


It should imo, or add extra rules like I said

If everyone is allowed to participate in everything, what's the point of a newb category when elite people will win it anyway

Quote (Bigheaded @ Oct 20 2023 01:40am)


Thanks for the opinion in short you've voted for lottery, is my understanding ;)


Yea I guess I vote for that out of the options so far :D

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Oct 19 2023 05:18pm
Quote (Jupiter5 @ Oct 20 2023 12:06am)
It should imo, or add extra rules like I said

If everyone is allowed to participate in everything, what's the point of a newb category when elite people will win it anyway


In prof gained a new player nearly broke top 3 last time for skilling, however they did bot so kinda disqualified as they did get banned :rofl:
Damage/healing prof was entirely dominated by active known players though. Saying this the top 10 had a LOT of names which you wouldnt necessarily expect: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=91444489&f=272

I could split the prof category further, although grouping it seems the most interesting at this point as i only rewarded participation last year by a total prof amount and the amount set was around 24 hours of activity of knowing what you were doing and not facking it up which unfortunately led to very few newbs receiving the prize

This is the other point of lottery, as i pointed out in an earlier post, is that even the guy who came LAST in a 30 person competition, still had better odds of getting the top prize (1 in 465) than resetting a season from mq'ing an alchemist (1 in 720 unless you're ).

Quote (PO0 @ Oct 20 2023 12:01am)
im heavy on transmuting. and if something like fishing will be same prof gained per hour as transmute i vote for prof gain.
also is it total gain prof like you decide suffu + fish + cook VS transmute ? sometimes market dry and not muting that much

[X] Prof gained


My intention is to group it, skilling was incredibly equal last time with muting generally coming out on top as they muted a heck of a lot more outside of fishing/cooking events which were reasonably close otherwise.

This post was edited by Bigheaded on Oct 19 2023 05:19pm
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Oct 19 2023 05:20pm
Quote (Jupiter5 @ Oct 19 2023 07:06pm)
It should imo, or add extra rules like I said

If everyone is allowed to participate in everything, what's the point of a newb category when elite people will win it anyway


Wait, what's "fair" nowadays? are we talking equality or equity.

Sounds like you're saying putting a handicap on players will make things more fair. I don't personally agree with this, but understand.
I personally think players who have put in the time should have an edge, and newer players will gain this edge as they play more.

I do, however, agree that a competition would be more enjoyable for newer players if they feel like they have a chance to win though.
It's hard to balance that, I'm glad Bigheaded is on the case :)

As for my vote, if you didn't catch it in my previous post:
[X] Prof gained - limited to a single character
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Oct 19 2023 05:36pm
I still think a point driven scavenger hunt would be cool.


You can make easy to absurd challenges.

All different value depending on the difficulty

This post was edited by Outraged on Oct 19 2023 05:37pm
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i like the choices you had for various chances to win more categories than 1 person can do or have a chance to win which we should have multiple winners 1 person can't do all of the categories and win
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im too casual. have fun :)
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Oct 19 2023 09:35pm
Replies from Page 3 have been very interesting and on point. I know I am repeating myself here:

Bufcore: Either a new character or a previous character either HC or SC. This eliminates players with gear, they have to start from scratch and use self found items when competition starts. This also shows the dedication (time) the player has put into the climb to either MQ or even Re-roll (for combat prof gain) etc. Now, if you introduce skilling, it is simple that Fishing & Cooking has an advantage since you start off with a Training Rod and don't even need one to fish, just use the pond and cooking will just become even better because you don't need anything other than a fish to cook. Hence, skilling prof should NOT be added (bufcore that is) UNLESS you categorize each skill based on items that are needed ... i.e. Essences etc.

Combat Prof hunting Bufcore vs those having gear and only solo ... those that have gear already will gain more prof points vs a Bufcore character even with the Welling technique I have posted... it is really simple... a person with gear can use a lower tier item, gain the maximum 10 prof points, then switch to the best EE item to kill of the Well monster faster, however, as a Bufcore character, they have to kill the well monster off with the self found item(s) only, thus making it longer to kill off the well monster compared to a person that has gear. Oh, this doesn't include the Monster level spawned either, even if a white item is Tier VII, the monster type spawn could be the Lowest defense spawn or higher etc.

The Ticket idea is a great idea, I personally don't like it because someone (even myself) spent like 5 hours playing and winning compared to someone that spent 78 hours or even 312 hours, to me it ridicules their own effort(s). Is that really fair to ignore someones dedication to the game, especially if that someone is a new player and learning to enjoy the game as it is???
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You asked for some help with your (YOUR) competition and ideas, so, here is a suggestion, I will put in 5,000 fg towards the competition based on my concept, and it will be bufcore + prof + master quest attempts (I will set a goal) and those who want to participate with my idea, can STILL participate with YOUR competition if it is based on Raffle Tickets, oh, you may even include Skilling prof as well.

This is just an idea, I am very strict on mules, the participants will have to post from start, during and end. :P
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EDIT: Also, maybe split up Group and Solo categories for the competition(s)???

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Oct 19 2023 09:37pm
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Oct 20 2023 12:39am
Quote (Bigheaded @ 20 Oct 2023 00:06)
this is actually one of my solutions for "buffcore" for hc players.

thanks for the comment, i'll add you to the tally, also any indication of if you'd prefer getting semi randomised rewards or tiered rewards? basically currently the only 2 i'm offering.
Unlkely to fully randomise it, as i'd like to reward people who put in the effort, even if the reward is "slightly higher chances of getting the good stuff"


Maybe the best passrate in get monk or ninja
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Quote (Bigheaded @ Oct 19 2023 10:38pm)
Basically bumping this till the end of November.

I'm counting votes of what people would like to see, so if you'd prefer to see me attempt to make a competition based around 1 thing rather than another, you need to post your idea or support one of the current ideas.
Some ideas may or may not be doable, slightly depends on the assistance i get as i have a contact whom may be able to assist who will receive my PM shortly. Not really going to emphasize what this is, but if you think you could theoretically run it, i may be interested in your help, otherwise i'm best off putting in the hours myself as i save time in confirming its done correctly because i've done it myself.


Current "votes"
(If you wish to vote for something else rather than what you suggested, just be clear what you'd like to see)
Competition:
Prof: Southerncomfort
Pass rate/MQ challenge: Outraged
Best item drop: labatt, thoover
Buffcore: nemo, izparagonzi
LS bingo (to warn you i'd need a LOT of people to be interested in this, as i'd need to decide 15+ different objectives): jimmyhoud, labatt


Rewards:
Lottery/tickets : pwb3, arxyn
Tiered top 10 rewards (i.e first gets 3x, 10th gets x) with participation bonus to all who achieve an objective: Thoover



I encourage literally everyone who plays to give me some input. I've put a few suggestions above, however my own vote is worth like 5-10 votes on how doable/easy it is, although currently i'd like to avoid prof is all i'm giving away. If i have overwhelming requests for a certain objective, i'll attempt to make it work, if i'm able to, well then that's the goal. As i said i have someone in mind for assistance who can weed out botters/cheaters.

Here goes a list of people picked from who mq'd in the past 24h, please give me what you'd like to see for a christmas competition, especially you HC guys as some objectives may be harder than others and i'd rather you not feel excluded:
^meridius ^fuzzysocks69 ^tealeaves ^Dendawg ^alexis99 ^Disn3y ^jaku ^C3drick ^HylianHero ^ddevin ^AntTheProtagonist ^Godouimet ^tor_zero ^PO0 ^Tds95 ^Matthi ^n1ghtm4r3 ^Jupiter5 ^Mezzer69 ^RiMs ^RabbitRoyal ^Juston ^Tad ^threesomes ^Piceusz ^TheFarSideOfTheForce ^Hylian_Queen ^KlangvolleStille ^TuCKeRBWS ^xDiAx

I mean ^NR1 you need to give a vote at the very least, the first reply even mentioned you :P

I believe last event i put 2k in each category, this year i'm aiming to double this (Perhaps more?!) and make the participation requirement easier. Although ideally i'm aiming to pay out more to "random" players than the top players where 2k means not a lot anyway where winning it was probably more of a reward
^clickfest give me your ideas/vote as well :P


happy for whatever Bigheaded!
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