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Jun 5 2022 10:00am
800 Life before going town sometimes much lower .
All depends whether it's an EP or not.
Generally you have to have feeling to pull out to town before dying sometimes should be safer to go town not to lose proficiency.
But I think if you die more simply get better tank armor or pump more into Vitality.

This post was edited by Sizzerb on Jun 5 2022 10:00am
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800 Life before going town sometimes much lower .
All depends whether it's an EP or not.
Generally you have to have feeling to pull out to town before dying sometimes should be safer to go town not to lose proficiency.
But I think if you die more simply get better tank armor or pump more into Vitality.


Sorry EP? I forget shit to easily. You lose proficiency when you die? I thought you just lost a little exp. I'm pumping more into vit now but this best armor I can afford lol
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Quote (Krayze @ 5 Jun 2022 18:29)
Sorry EP? I forget shit to easily. You lose proficiency when you die? I thought you just lost a little exp. I'm pumping more into vit now but this best armor I can afford lol


EP = Evil Presence
Yes you do lose proficiency when you die, how much is depending on what class you have unlocked on your character.
Should be something like this:

alch= 33.33%
hunter= 25.00%
lock = 20.00%
ninja = 16.66%
monk = 14.28%
pally = 12.50%
sammy = 11.11%
feeder = 10.00%
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EP = Evil Presence
Yes you do lose proficiency when you die, how much is depending on what class you have unlocked on your character.
Should be something like this:

alch= 33.33%
hunter= 25.00%
lock = 20.00%
ninja = 16.66%
monk = 14.28%
pally = 12.50%
sammy = 11.11%
feeder = 10.00%


I'm confused, proficiency like with swords and elemental attacks? This my first climb in doing it as warrior. Thanks though I appreciate the info sorry I get a little confused:)
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Quote (Krayze @ 5 Jun 2022 19:18)
I'm confused, proficiency like with swords and elemental attacks? This my first climb in doing it as warrior. Thanks though I appreciate the info sorry I get a little confused:)


You lose proficiency on weapons and charms. not skills ( cooking, transmuting, etc )

https://ladderslasher.d2jsp.org/index.php?g=1


You can find like 90% of your needs and info in the LS portal :) Maybe just abit tricky to find if u aren't used to look in there :P

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You lose proficiency on weapons and charms. not skills ( cooking, transmuting, etc )


Oooh okay haha I'm stupid I thought you lost proficiency in the class itself lol but you lose it based on what class you are. So I have to stop don't so much lol got it. Thank you! Much appreciated!
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Quote (Krayze @ Jun 6 2022 05:25am)
Oooh okay haha I'm stupid I thought you lost proficiency in the class itself lol but you lose it based on what class you are. So I have to stop don't so much lol got it. Thank you! Much appreciated!


Others have given you great advice.

I play Hardcore and don't use Enhanced Effect armor, I however play against the grain.

I always use heals... even if on a Barbarian with only +5 Intelligence, I however will add a minimum of 25 to Intelligence (minimum 30 Base) in conjunction of using heal charms level 25 with around 12x% EE to MQ, and if I were to use higher tier heals, I would want it to have no less than 100% ee with minimum 30 Intelligence Base.

I also use +Int Armor ... 35+ with other mods... as long as the plate/chain and level is within my characters Level, normally only from level 45+ Armor (put on at like level 55-60+) ... I would climb with + Str or Dex Plate/Chains from level 1-55 or 60. (class dependent)

I also only use Heavy Weapons with enhanced effect.

99.99% of the time I start with guardian because of the starting Int/Vit stats, a Samurai & Paladin I get to 30 Base int... with Robed characters, it is 50 Int Base.

No one really plays the game like I do... and since it is Hardcore, the normal time to exit a catacomb would be 50% hit points, I solo, at times I won't leave cata until my hit points reach 1/3 my hit point total... and sometimes with exiting catacomb (clicking door) I will end up in near death (below 1k) situations of only have like 60-300 hit points... not good.

You will come up with your own way to exit... I use Heal because I switch to this action before exiting, just in case there is any lag and hopefully the heal action in between will keep me alive.

EDIT: By the way, when you encounter 2 or 3 EPs, they can pretty much make you exit before even dealing 1 or 2 attacks / heals... you will have to watch your Hit points... Ambush objective can have this effect at higher levels and slower to kill... those using EE armor survive better in these situations.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jun 5 2022 03:28pm
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IzParagonzi also doesn't mind spending 5 minutes per wave.
Think Krayze's fine doing what everyone else is going myself :rofl:
We recommend strength/EE armors for a very good reason in Bob's beginner guide.

Adding to int is more viable when you're richer, but so is running full strength and just smashing everything before they hit you very much, i can tell you which one of these is faster too!

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IzParagonzi also doesn't mind spending 5 minutes per wave.
Think Krayze's fine doing what everyone else is going myself :rofl:
We recommend strength/EE armors for a very good reason in Bob's beginner guide.

Adding to int is more viable when you're richer, but so is running full strength and just smashing everything before they hit you very much, i can tell you which one of these is faster too!


I can still 1 - 5 hit kill monster, and EPs even at level 60+ ... it does take longer when I am only using a +8 ML Polearm though (0% EE).

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jun 5 2022 03:34pm
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Jun 6 2022 09:12am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jun 5 2022 05:18pm)
Others have given you great advice.

I play Hardcore and don't use Enhanced Effect armor, I however play against the grain.

I always use heals... even if on a Barbarian with only +5 Intelligence, I however will add a minimum of 25 to Intelligence (minimum 30 Base) in conjunction of using heal charms level 25 with around 12x% EE to MQ, and if I were to use higher tier heals, I would want it to have no less than 100% ee with minimum 30 Intelligence Base.

I also use +Int Armor ... 35+ with other mods... as long as the plate/chain and level is within my characters Level, normally only from level 45+ Armor (put on at like level 55-60+) ... I would climb with + Str or Dex Plate/Chains from level 1-55 or 60. (class dependent)

I also only use Heavy Weapons with enhanced effect.

99.99% of the time I start with guardian because of the starting Int/Vit stats, a Samurai & Paladin I get to 30 Base int... with Robed characters, it is 50 Int Base.

No one really plays the game like I do... and since it is Hardcore, the normal time to exit a catacomb would be 50% hit points, I solo, at times I won't leave cata until my hit points reach 1/3 my hit point total... and sometimes with exiting catacomb (clicking door) I will end up in near death (below 1k) situations of only have like 60-300 hit points... not good.

You will come up with your own way to exit... I use Heal because I switch to this action before exiting, just in case there is any lag and hopefully the heal action in between will keep me alive.

EDIT: By the way, when you encounter 2 or 3 EPs, they can pretty much make you exit before even dealing 1 or 2 attacks / heals... you will have to watch your Hit points... Ambush objective can have this effect at higher levels and slower to kill... those using EE armor survive better in these situations.


That's awesome haha always fun to play the game your way of playing, definitely can enjoy it more. Sounds pretty awesome though:)

Yeah I'm not going to worry about to much death lol just enjoying the climb. I'm going to attempt my first MQ :)

So I guess you can't do MQ on mobile. That's how I got all the way to 71 :(

This post was edited by Krayze on Jun 6 2022 09:16am
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