He does not have a point with that.

When you test with a high variety then this is correct. When you test in a range where you got like 10 different possible outcomes it's very accurate, even with a couple of 100 action tests.

We are talking a maximum of 3-5% variation here which is a very accurate if you ask me.

E/ And exactly this is the reason for all the drama around Rex lately (or allways). His point of view is just wrong and even when people tell and show him he still insists he is right and start flaming on people when they disagree.

I do agree with some of your points towards outraged, but prolly you guys should work on your behavior first instead of pointing fingers at others. Standing up for Rex while he is harassing, flaming and offending people for no reason since years makes you not look any better


This post was edited by 4ndr3as on May 27 2022 05:44am

I like your post and point of view.

100 action testing VARIES.
Average DPS is STILL relevant and the Calculator shows the DPS 100% correctly.
The argument about consistency is correct, HOWEVER the calculator shows the DPS 100% correctly
The argument about low end damage vs high end damage is also correct, HOWEVER the calculator shows the DPS 100% correctly
Now, the "so-called" Critical Hit CHANCE that axes have in comparison to other weapon types are a myth and NOT proven. Even if it was correct, what is the base % CHANCE of dealing double damage with an Axe vs every other weapon type? 1%, 2%, 3% ... so 100 actions and a 3% Critical Hit Chance = 3/100 right... so what happens when a sword with a 75/25 ratio has a 1% or 2% Critical Hit Chance ... 1 or 2/100 right ... so you don't know, I don't know (actually I have extensively tested Longswords based on Stats and not Critical Strike items in the past) can not give a full answer, however, I know it is easier to get Critical hit chance based on Stat ratio(s) with sword compared to axes with certain character classes upto 10% CtC. Think on it.

my behavior? I literally avoid this forum 99% of the time because its just full of drama and people constantly trying to get rises out of each other. I am glad you have me all figured out though.
Just so you know I dont always approve of how rex acts at times but there are literally people on this forum that make it their lives to get him going and to set him off. those are the people I am referring to.
rex wasnt even rude and someone comes in to get him going right away.. thats why i said something.
but anyways have a good day. hate me or love me idc

Gonna show you, AGAIN. Because the last time you didnt learn.


0 actions to 100 actions, from level 1. Did NOT add my new stat points as i leveled, nor did i use abilities.

Below are my stats, EE, Prof, and predicted DPS via the calculator.



Below is my ACTUAL DPS from 0-100 actions. With my damage range being 50-60.



Below is my count of how many times i did a crit hit in those 0-100 actions. (counted as any red hits, which were all double my max damage)



So, just for this small test, 17 out of 100 hits were crit hits with my axe.

Things we have learned:

The damage calculator shows you what your RANGE of damage based on your current item, stats, prof etc, and gives you the AVERAGE. IE if my range is 50-60, then the average number of those 2 numbers is 55.

Axes do crit, alot. Idk how much more often than other weapons, but they def crit alot.

Between axes critting alot, and hitting over their in game shown max damage, the damage calculator doesnt show the correct numbers. As its literally an AVERAGE of your damage range.


Idk maybe im just dumb as fuck and have no idea what im talking about.

I may be wrong but I think your damage increases as you level (or maybe only every 5 levels) even if you don’t add the stat points to your character
Also each monster has different defense so it’s possible that you were attacking weaker monsters with your sword and therefore assumed your damage was greater with a sword

Edit: which is why I suggested earlier trying this with a higher lvl character that won’t level when you attack the same monster (like a 4 corner one) with an equal ee sword and axe….

This post was edited by CARTRACK on May 27 2022 08:32pm

I was basically just pointing out that what the damage calculator shows, is merely an AVERAGE of the range of values that whatever weapon can do. be it 1-100 or 60-70, the calculator is just going to get the average of those two numbers and thats your "DPS". And while yes it does give you a good idea of what you can possibly do, it doesnt show the actual output of said weapons.

Rex's whole point is that the dmg calculator shows that swords have a higher dps than axes and are therefore better. However, its just an average, and not the actual damage output. On paper, yes swords > axes. In LS, axes > swords. Rex just cant see this for whatever reason.


SIDE NOTE::

I was messing with the calculator for charms. Put in like 200 int, 200 EE. And just went thru all charms at lvl 55. All of the elements, no matter the range of damage, all show almost the exact same DPS (average damage). I honestly wasnt expecting that lol.

This post was edited by Light_Prince on May 27 2022 08:53pm

I'll agree with you on that. I don't mean any ill will toward anyone and I can be extra at times. But I have a deep pride or honor so to say about staying GM.
And I have had troubles with guildies personally..
Which I've also lost gear and have invested fg/loans in said people.
Exactly why I stopped advertising i pay per gp. Cuz it's brings on a crowd that can be overwhelming to say the least.
Because I pay per gp slashers can have a chance at making fg by playing. But it also creates a target on my back which I will be defensive about because people try to take advantage of me and it's hard to weed out.
If you actually knew me. You would understand I truly enjoy the discussion and am just trying to have a pleasant or playful one.
Which is were Rex's attack the world mentality comes into play.
I totally see that he's like an abused puppy. His gaurd is constantly up. But that's what pisses me off cuz I'd like to see everyone be able to have opinions without being totally offensive towards each other.
As long as you can compose a sentence that is...

Now addressing the damage calculator. Can we all agree it's a useful tool just not as accurate as rex claims and we can beg to differ without fighting? Cuz I legit don't care at all about it.

And I also was trying to productively add to the post by my previous post about the OP suggestions

The town well could be useful but I don't think its really neccessary we just need better well longevity Event more often.
Your idea is genuine , however i don't think people want it be harder to climb together.
Cheers

Sizzerb

Your post right now executes how LOW level killing and weapon Tier from level 1 (Tier I / II & III) benfits 1-15 (character level) with 1 HIT KILLS vs my previous thread that REVEALED Tier X item(s) comparison) where MONSTER DIFFICULTY is WAY more harder and you can NOT 1 hit kill a level 35 monster with an Axe that is level 35 compared to a sword that CAN (given higher damage) COULD kill a level 35 Monster in 1 Hit when dealing a CRITICAL hit... and maybe using an Ability (Powerstrike / Retribution) at a % charge.

You just proved my point... anything lower than level 35 is UNBALANCED... go back to my thread, in all of my posts I ONLY stated Tier X ... and just like you have done, you pointed out the obvious LOW level of 1.

Who is wrong... you want the best DPS for that weapon type... guess what, with the game mechanics, YOU (yes YOU) have to think above level 1 or 15 or 25 ... so from level 35+, you can not find a better weapon type for DPS when comparing a Sword &/or Club (+Str items) / Staff &/or Daggers (+Dex items) ... now prove me wrong, or should I say the Damage Calculator, because I am only reflecting the numbers shown from the DAMAGE CALCULATOR with the HIGHER level you go up and the MONSTER DIFFICULTY goes up in comparison to level 1 to say 25 or 35.

Game mechanics.

You do realize the damage calculator does NOT take into affect a monsters level right? All it shows you is the average number for the RANGE of values of your weapon based on EE, Prof, and stats. No defense, no crits, nothing extra. Literally just an average of 2 numbers, you low value and high value. Thats all it shows. Whenever i feel like playing again, ill do the same test 35+ with my axes and show you, yet again, that youre wrong. Like youve been proven numerous times already.