Well keep in mind that for cooking (at least on higher ranks) you need to fish for a looong time.... I am technically at 2 out of 6 tiers , so only every third fish gives me prof in cooking

generally I think it takes way too long to advance in the skilling...

This post was edited by Dante on May 13 2016 10:05am

That would make it a 7:1 rate (from back then), so we still should have good items from time to time... which is not the case.
Since Im playing.. for 3-4 years, I didnt seen one single great drop. All of us are playing with stuff that have dropped ages ago.
So this makes it an awful game. There is no other game around that will not give you good items if you are playing it.


About economy, if noone had any items, the current drop rate would be good, as its equals for everyone.
I understand you cannot just erase the players items... they worked for them, but drop rate have to be changed. If ppl are playing they have to get something...

I propose make drop rates like 10x higher ( can be tested in events) and if ppl will get full loads of great items, make the game harder, new challanges.
If items will drop, players will return for sure.

No, you cant say that lol, back then there was 200+ players online ALL DAY LONG, today there is not even 30 active at once.
There is maybe ~5-7players who spend more than 8h+ ingame today.
Also back then EVERYONE was exploring, because items sold for alot more than today. Today ppl is not exploring, that's why items dont drop.
Lets say if everyone started explore tho, then sure alot more stuff would drop.

Past 2 years I've played I've found

lvl 50 wind - 22x ee (Best ingame since carlos shrined the one that was higher)
lvl 55 robe - 20x ee some XP, and other adds i cant remember.
lvl 40 chain - 19x ee
lvl 40 dag - 152 ee
lvl 20 robe - 35 int

These are the ones i can remember right now, found plenty more stuff.
All these were found during MM runs, I've maybe completed 50 MM runs, and these are the drops i've got myself.
There's plenty of other decent drops that has dropped.

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IF ppl explored more, stuff would drop, but it's imposible to even compare today with back then, because there was so many more explorers.
Items do drop, it's just that ppl want to get up on the ladder and have the chance to reset instead.

If there was some way of farming again tho, that would make ppl do more explore than there is today.
Events are great, makes alot more explore climbs happen, or at least the ones im doing.

I consider that a rumor.

People on HC mostly explore and nothing drops

This post was edited by Dante on May 13 2016 10:48am

Im always soloing/explore and got a lvl 20 leather with 132ee best drop
Well, not all of us can play MM(not great equip and mostly the time), but if you got that, then you are right.

lol, well look at all the drop topics, most ppl will say that their drops are either from well or a EP.
Sometimes there is few lower lvl items that will pop up with good stats, but that because they drop ALL THE TIME.
To find higher level items you kinda need to explore.

IMO drops are better than they were 7years ago, i never found anything good back then.

I have seen one actually good item drop, that I don't even want to talk about, in 100+ explore climbs

on HC going past 80 is pretty much a no-go, even an 8 wave of evils at 70 with one caster in the team has me sweating bullets

actually I have to correct myself: I have seen two good items dropping, and one was in no maze no more

This post was edited by Dante on May 13 2016 10:55am

How many hc climbs are going on today? is it even 1?
If you compare that to back in the days when there used to be 10+ each day, most of those were explore.
Hardcore is an explore league because there arent many drops around. But most ppl dont want to risk their gear trying to go higher than 71.
Also there is not many ppl who is interested in starting playing HC because of the reason there isnt many items to use. (which is also another good reason to put back transmute to what it was)
ALL Mirror Maze runs there was on HC was all by a "bug/exploit" which was never meant to be there.




No maze no more have/had a higher chance for better drops, thats why ppl farmed it, and he changed it so it would become harder to find.



This post was edited by RistVaLL on May 13 2016 10:57am

and I don't do anything but agree with you
there just needs to be a way to earn fg by doing something other than leeching in a public climb (you're very lucky if you get into one on hc, even more lucky if you have no gear) and selling your GP, which you would have to do a hundred times to even afford a semi decent set

or a way to find / make gear on your own of course



which is the wrong approach imo
everything that was good once was not balanced, it was nerfed into the ground so that it's either utterly useless or absolutely not worth doing

This post was edited by Dante on May 13 2016 10:58am

Yeah, he def made it harder to "farm"
But that's what i've said before in this topic somewhere, IF he adds something that has a higher chance of droping decent items, IT WILL BE FARMED ALOT and thats all what ppl will do.
NMNM was fairly ez to find before, but what made it harder was that today you have to find so many pre-quests just to open up a slot for it, and also it's not something that will spawn all the time as it used to do.

What I miss most about this game is, NO MAZE CATACOMB.
It was exactly like NMNM is today, but it was a way of leveling instead of doing a explore catacomb or just whistling.
If im not wrong, the only 2 ways of leveling back then was either ARENA or NM Catacomb.
Fuck arena and the prof that gave, I want NM Cata ^^