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Feb 28 2012 12:49pm
Quote (myl0rd @ Feb 28 2012 02:46pm)
You dont have to be a scientist to realize how does it work.


nah, but being an Engineer does help ;)

I haven't gotten any Feedback as to if ppl like this S.H.I.T. mod or not? I think we need a poll. I'm making one now.

This post was edited by Stok3d on Feb 28 2012 01:00pm
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Feb 28 2012 03:39pm
Quote (sahmmy699 @ 28 Feb 2012 17:18)
I believe u may be correct about a possible SHIT mod. I took 2 years off and just got back recently. My first 10 or so climbs with feeder class i found some of the sexiest gear i ever found. Since i passed i might of found 500 fg worth the gear in the last 30 climbs... If its coincidence or not i found a hella lot more stuff on feeder class then i have on any other class.


it's all about the luck. I was trying on hc (1 and 2 season - about 15 climbs) with not so bad gear, solo and with abilities and every climb was lucky for me. By lucky i mean more than few k fg earned on dropped items.

There was oly few mq from me so this way i was newcomer lol :D And hidden Mod or LS god was listening to my prayers :D At least we solved this case hehe.

Quote (Stok3d @ 28 Feb 2012 16:15)
I read this topic about two hours ago when I got to work and this has weighed on my mind since. 

Everyone knows of the 'bug' that ppl were abusing Damage Return and getting a spike in drops / whites.  Basically, ppl were slow playing kills and letting the mob kill itself (in say half a dozen to a dozen hits?).  Realize I'm guessing here as I haven't played in 6months.  However, couple this fact with one of an astute observation from our Mediator friend from Labby is making me draw some conclusions here. 

What if Paul has a secret "Socialistic Hidden Identifier Trigger"  Modification (S.H.I.T.  Mod for short) which basically is a hidden Mod programmed into LS to IDENTIFY the NEWCOMERS and give them a better shot at getting nice drops (obviously they kill slower with crap gear and must hit the mob more to kill it) than that of the elite ppl who do sub 1hour MQs.  Basically, the Drop % or ML % goes up with every hit done on the mob and is intended to help out those LS newcomers who may "Need" increased drops the most.  I can't help but think this S.H.I.T. mod was inadvertently identified months ago and abused for personal profit.  Paul may have since dialed back this S.H.I.T. mod as it's not as so easily identifiable, but it may still exist. 

The fact that there is evidence that a S.H.I.T. mod may exist to better spread the LS wealth of the "Haves" & "Have-Nots" could also make a swing in pricing for gear too for ppl who are looking to capitalize on this fact.  Think about it, what gear would you want to use to SAFELY kill w/o issue a little slower on Solo or group?    EE & HM.  Expect a price spike in this gear if you are able to find any.  Understanding price trends is how you truly make fg in this game.

gl and lmk your thoughts.


Seriously, Nick, you should try to MQ first before you post another S.H.I.T like this ;) You can still make profits on drops :D

Quote (Braxton11 @ 28 Feb 2012 18:04)
CONSPIRACY THEORIES!


This. Nothings more to add.
That's my opinion.
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Feb 28 2012 03:42pm
Quote (amigo @ Feb 28 2012 05:39pm)

Seriously, Nick, you should try to MQ first before you post another S.H.I.T like this ;) You can still make profits on drops :D


I am able to sit back and look at the big picture as I'm quite distanced from the game. All data I'm gathering are just putting together puzzles pieces. The potential implications of what this thread could mean really bothers me. You would be directly penalized for being efficient & on top of your game. I really think there is validity in what I stated and believe it a disservice to all well geared slashers if true :(

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Quote (Stok3d @ Feb 28 2012 04:42pm)
I am able to sit back and look at the big picture as I'm quite distanced from the game.  All data I'm gathering are just putting together puzzles pieces.  The potential implications of what this thread could mean really bothers me.  You would be directly penalized for being efficient & on top of your game.  I really think there is validity in what I stated and believe it a disservice to all well geared slashers if true :(


Quote (FlooR @ Feb 9 2012 04:47pm)
Rare ice XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 291 to 349
Mana Cost: 109

+262% Enhanced Effect
+5% Experience Gained


just found that beast :) hehe my wl will love it <3



Quote (legirotto @ Feb 7 2012 03:55pm)
So, I just came to finish the last char i had parked at 62, walked up to 10 squares, killed some stupid mobs and this dropped. It's now owned by ToughGuy_TJ, btw.

Rare ultimanium sword
Level Req: 55
Damage: 61 to 610

+243% Enhanced Effect
+22 Intelligence


The 2 best drops in months were found by 2 extremely well geared players.


Edit: On the other hand, I haven't found shit in over 500 climbs and using some of the best gear you can find. So....

Being a mathematicians, it is all just luck imo.

This post was edited by Mikol on Feb 28 2012 03:49pm
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The 2 best drops in months were found by 2 extremely well geared players.



during the time ppl were cheating the system? I don't know floor, but I could see that type of behavior coming from legirotto so you don't really prove anything :(


Quote (amigo @ Feb 28 2012 05:48pm)
So how it could works? Even with xx k fg and xxx k fg gear on account i can still find good items? I'm sure that i'm not the only one.

So how to check it? Send all items and fg to your friend and make a test :D This is the only way hehe. Let me ask Paul, maybe drop rate is based on your current fg and items value on your account he?


amigo, i dunno. it's theory that really bothered me this morning that remains untested by myself. My theory was that it was based on recorded click to kill a monster as it's obvious that lower geared/new players need to click a mob more to kill it. Hence, that's an easy way to calculate ones "eliteness" and use that as a means to "weight" the drops.

Quote (Mikol @ Feb 28 2012 05:46pm)
Being a mathematicians, it is all just luck imo.


Being an Engineer, it's all about applied math and recognizing/understanding trends...

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I am able to sit back and look at the big picture as I'm quite distanced from the game.  I really think there is validity in what I stated and believe it a disservice to all well geared slashers if true :(


So how it could works? Even with xx k fg and xxx k fg gear on account i can still find good items? I'm sure that i'm not the only one.

So how to check it? Send all items and fg to your friend and make a test :D This is the only way hehe. Let me ask Paul, maybe drop rate is based on your current fg and items value on your account he?
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during the time ppl were cheating the system?  I don't know floor, but I could see that type of behavior coming from legirotto so you don't really prove anything :(


Wayyyyyy after the benell incident.
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Feb 28 2012 03:52pm
Quote (Stok3d @ 28 Feb 2012 22:47)
during the time ppl were cheating the system?  I don't know floor, but I could see that type of behavior coming from legirotto so you don't really prove anything :(


feb7 and 9, so the drops were legit

i cant agree with your theory, i still think that solo brings the good drops, the gear doesnt matter, i found good items when i started hc with low stuff and i still can find good items with higher gear, same to my guildies
the only reason the well geared players think they get less drops is: doing speed runs and black only
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Feb 28 2012 05:03pm
This Can certainly be the case since the damage return bug was in effect for so long and it went unnoticed by the big man for a long time.
WOuldn't surprise me
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Feb 28 2012 05:07pm
From solo'ing alot when I am actually at home instead of currently housesitting my best friends dead mothers house, I have
found that killing EPs, Well mobs and Normal monsters with an ability does NOT effect the droprate, at times I get either nothing
or upto 6 items from a single monster.

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