I'd like to see a test with the same lvl, same combined stats:

a) axe with equal str + dex
axe with more dex than str
c) axe with more str than dex
d) comparable dagger with equal sum str + dex

I would like welcoming axes back, but i doubt it because...



...THIS

axes are not back at all imo!

im still doing kinda lousy dmg.. and a guy with 114EE dagger made more dmg than my 198EE axe lol!

Pretty sure my mq sword does that xD

Something was tweaked--I can attest to it. My avg dmg last melee cata with my daggers was less than 1250 on my MQ dmg compared to over 1600 using the same gear w/o glyphs. Where I used to crit a lot, I very rarely ever had a crit.
I've also heard the same thing about axes from multiple ppl--it was boosted though.

I'll need another run to be more scientific with my methods, but I'm 100% sure something was changed for daggers. My first impression is that the booste that was given to them has since been removed.

This post was edited by Stok3d on Oct 15 2010 07:49am

How do you think I got to lvl 65? I had to hit lvl 45, 46, 47, etc, in numerical order. I had the same average at 50-53 that I had at 56-71 using the same lvl 45 axe. The difference in average was +/- 10 points, as it fluctuated a little every level.

You thought wrong, I never said this or, as far as I know, gave that impression.

here is the gear, so you know what axe I'm using...not that it matters since it's the same axe and the stat points are only 6 different.

Magical tempered diamond axe
Level Req: 45
Damage: 516 to 619

+200% Enhanced Effect


Angelic pixiesilk padded robe
Level Req: 50
Physical Defense: 0 to 33
Magical Defense: 31 to 78

+42 Strength
+33 Dexterity
+20 Life Regen
+1 Jubilance


Mythical ice I
Spell Damage: 6 to 7
Mana Cost: 5

+45 Strength
+30 Dexterity
+18% Experience Gained
+2 Critical Strike
+1 to 61 Life per Kill


This post was edited by HoR_Rahl on Oct 15 2010 07:55am

Excellent! I was really worried about using axes again! Thanks for the testing!

Kind of non related since I used a different axe this time, but w/ a better axe, previously my average was 950.

I would be interested to see if the ratio of 1:1 on axes has any effect on crits.

So in effect, testing an unbalanced ratio.

I just got back my axe set last night and will test out pure str, pure dex, even, and partial str/dex builds to see if it makes a difference. I was quick to test the nerf out and let the community know axes were nerfed. It's only fair that I'm equally fast saying it's been corrected. I haven't had the time or the axes to test the new boost to axes out properly though. Since I do have enough proof that they have been boosted, I posted that up so people would know for sure that it is being addressed.

I also have another test in the works to see if axes and daggers are on the same playing field.

This post was edited by HoR_Rahl on Oct 16 2010 12:33pm