lvl65 fighter

testing with
Magical godwood club
Level Req: 55
Damage: 179 to 805

+119% Enhanced Effect


Godly ultimanium chain mail
Level Req: 55
Physical Defense: 46 to 116
Magical Defense: 0 to 47

+55 Strength
+20 Dexterity
+22 Vitality
+53 Intelligence
+3% Experience Gained
+2 Mana Regen
+1 to 26 Life per Kill
+5% Parry

The charms that I did the test with::

Magical ice XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 117 to 141
Mana Cost: 109

+59 Dexterity


Rare ice XIV
Level Req: 55
Spell Damage: 117 to 141
Mana Cost: 109

+40 Strength
+1 Jubilance

Str vs Dex comparisons after approx 100 actions on each charm

108 actions
Using the dex charm, total dmg 51,028, (94//472//1396)
163 hits for 4,801 dmg taken
Str 173, Dex 119


119 actions ( had to dispose of 3 EP's)
Using the str charm, total dmg 69,963, (103//588//1584)
219 hits for 15,078 dmg taken
Str 213, Dex 60

i hope ur not exploring the maze and just running in the black so eps dont mess the numbers up

How about you trying something similar rather than bitching about it

I think you've had the same sig/ava for like 3 years

def has been the same since i played LS a few years ago

how the fuck was i bitching? i was just trying to make sure your information was equal
and ill assume you were just running around the maze there fore ur numbers mean nothing

This post was edited by Boss on Oct 8 2010 09:12am

yeah on clubs u need ALOT more str than dex ofc.. just look for the 1/9 ratio!

should be self explaneable imo.

The EP's make this test a bit less fruitful I am afraid :(. It is possible to see a tendency, but the damage taken would be higher with the same setup, as well as the damage output would be lower.

Still, i try my best:

Setup 1:
Str: 173
Dex: 119
Club->173*0,9+119*0,1=167,6
avg dam: 472
Ratio: 472/167,6=2,816

Setup 2
Str: 213
Dex: 60
Club->213*0,9+60*0,1=197,7
avg dam: 588
Ratio: 588/197,7=2,974

The second value is a bit off (~6%) but this may be because of the EP's. The calculated Damage for setup 2 with the Ratio of 1 should be 557 Damage instead of 588. This might be due to the "hidden" ratio bonus, because Setup 2 is closer to 9str/1Dex-Ratio.
But atm, noone knows for sure.

Interesting tests would be:
Clubs: all str vs str/dex-ratio 9:1 (needs reroll->time)
daggers: all dex vs str/dex-ratio 1:9 (needs reroll->time)
Axes: all dex vs str/dex-ratio 5:5

Damage taken:

here the quite obvious:
Setup 1 (Dex): 29,45 Dam/hit
Setup 2 (Str): 70,79 Dam/hit

but take into account the 3 EP's on str-setup, wich make this result very questionable.

Again, big thx to rick for the fist club-based test here

This post was edited by Harpel on Oct 8 2010 09:19am

(njags comment was to kakewalks comment)

Yes it should, but it is obviously not.

This post was edited by jaywalker on Oct 8 2010 09:19am

i dont get your point, sry

explain pls

The setups have been tweaked a bit -- new sword lvl 65 results:

with dex charm --- 101 actions// 88,0272 total dmg (40,872, 2484) -- total dmg taken 138 hits for 3379

with str charm -- 99 actions//79,363 total dmg (33,802,2610) -- total dmg taken 178 hits for 16,488