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Aug 19 2010 11:55pm
Quote (Pootar @ Aug 20 2010 12:40am)
Ahh, okay. Smart to open up with the whole "we is all friends" argument while previously bashing the kirby guild, also mentioning my attitude when the first thing a newcomer will see from you in this topic is trash is a great idea.
As to how kakewalk has made his name I have no comment other then to say that this suggestion would definitely make this game more attractive. I do, as you correctly guessed, come from mainly diablo 2 forums which gives this suggestion merit. In diablo 2 life steal was very much nerfed by updates so when I first started this game I had no idea if this was the same as I could not tell if my life steal was doing anything.

Attitude comment again is another + to your argument.


Heh This is a very small community and like he said the majority of us are close friends I have close ties with people in most the guilds on the Top page and quite a few in the 2nd page. Guilds never seem to stick together a lot of people join a guild then leave after some time afterwards. No not every one gets along the comment made towards the kirby guild is probably based on the fact that they let a lot of new people in which is good and bad. Good in the aspect that new players need to go some where to learn the ropes, bad because well they aren't know so they get a lot of bad apples. Was a week or so ago one of your members was posting about Taking drugs and shit how many shrooms to eat ect. ect.... that was his 2nd or 3rd time posting nonsense and finally he got booted. I know My guild has took a 180 Degree turn in our trial ships. Continuing this argument is not needed Every one is entitled to their own Opinions I know quite a few people in your guild don't Like me very much as i'm annoyed by them most of the times tough Luck that's life. Still offended you call me a queermo though >.>... but really stop spamming this thread it doesn't prove any thing you talk about all the adds to his argument your not helping your case either.

Quote (Behemoth @ Aug 20 2010 12:53am)
neat idea, but i don't think it would revitalize life steal - it's just not enough.
life steal is just an add now, and like most adds, it can be great (i'm assuming a bit here), but the setups in which it can shine seem to be very limited
so unless the stat is buffed up a bit i think it should just be ignored; but of course that's the attitude you're combating - perhaps the relevant debate is a factual one, perhaps you should be giving us evidence of your position rather than telling paul to change the game so that such evidence would be more obvious :)

pootar - i appreciate that you have a brain, and coming out of the gate swinging can be exciting, but i'm sure you'll agree that ultimately it's more effective if you get some friends behind you first, eh?
(or you could just look at how well deadlysanity's reception has been going and think about whether you'd like yours to go similarly)


John I love you LOL

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Quote (ShaiHalud @ Aug 20 2010 12:36am)
Everything put aside  , LS is a small community and the majority of us are all friends . Coming into theses forums with the attitude you have is going to do nothing but hinder you .
KakeWalk has made his name by making useless suggestions every week , so yes they are met with opposition because he is making major game mechanic suggestions with little experience .
Persomaly I love reading suggestions as long as they at thought out with the knowledge necessary to make them  .
You how ever are deciding to make your name by arguing with NO experience , you may think my post was was just being an ass but i did put why in there ( 23 stats popping up) there is already enuf
lagg with out that .
My advise to you is go back to d2 forums where your attitude is accepted and is the norm .


Why would you ever give that advice? Such a horrible idea.

Quote (Pootar @ Aug 20 2010 12:51am)
very good game :)
Mine would probably be...Conkers bad fur day
Such an amazing game :)


If I say something about this quote, would you post again?
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Quote (Behemoth @ Aug 20 2010 05:53am)

pootar - i appreciate that you have a brain, and coming out of the gate swinging can be exciting, but i'm sure you'll agree that ultimately it's more effective if you get some friends behind you first, eh?
(or you could just look at how well deadlysanity's reception has been going and think about whether you'd like yours to go similarly)


I happen to have a decent group of friends within my guild and outside of it, just would rather not get them involved in my arguments.
I do understand what you are saying, I just have been attempting to read suggestions and constantly see posts stating "hell no" etc without any adequetly explored reasons.

unsure who deadlysanity is at the moment, looking them up though.
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Aug 19 2010 11:59pm
Quote (Pumpkin_King @ Aug 20 2010 12:09am)
Voted no.  There would be too many numbers popping up, and I think it would be more annoying than useful.


This.

Feel free to take note of damages done with different characters and stats, builds, etc, and figure out at what point which one becomes more useful if you feel up to it. They're fairly redundant in my noob opinion. :LOL:
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Aug 20 2010 12:03am
Quote (Pootar @ Aug 20 2010 12:58am)
I happen to have a decent group of friends within my guild and outside of it, just would rather not get them involved in my arguments.
I do understand what you are saying, I just have been attempting to read suggestions and constantly see posts stating "hell no" etc without any adequetly explored reasons.

unsure who deadlysanity is at the moment, looking them up though.


That's because everyone thinks that Paparick is cool, and they want to be just like him, except they aren't old enough, among other attributes...

Quote (ShaiHalud @ Aug 20 2010 01:04am)
Sorry Joe but id rather have no one than some one of this quality .....


But the Diablo 2 forums? :o That's mean.

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Aug 20 2010 12:04am
Quote (Kickassjoe @ Aug 20 2010 01:58am)
Why would you ever give that advice? Such a horrible idea.


Sorry Joe but id rather have no one than some one of this quality .....



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Aug 20 2010 12:11am
Quote (ShaiHalud @ Aug 20 2010 06:04am)
Sorry Joe but id rather have no one than some one of this quality .....


And that shows your depth, your attitude, and your idea of what this game should be all in one.

Good job.
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Aug 20 2010 12:20am
Quote (RareGift @ Aug 19 2010 10:55pm)
Heh This is a very small community  and like he said the majority of us are close friends  I have close ties with people in most the guilds on the Top page and quite a few in the  2nd page. Guilds never seem to stick together  a lot of people join a guild then leave after some time afterwards. No not every one gets along the comment made towards the kirby guild is probably based on the fact that they let a lot of new people in which is good and bad. Good in the aspect that new players need to go some where  to learn the ropes, bad because well they aren't know so they get a lot of bad apples. Was a week or so ago  one of your members was posting about  Taking drugs and shit how many shrooms to eat ect. ect....  that was his 2nd or 3rd time posting nonsense and finally he got booted. I know My guild has took a 180 Degree turn in our trial ships. Continuing this argument is not needed Every one is entitled to their own Opinions I know quite a few people in your guild don't Like me very much as  i'm annoyed by them most of the times tough Luck that's life.  Still offended you call me a queermo though >.>... but really stop spamming this thread it doesn't prove any thing you talk about all the adds to his argument your not helping your case either.


I like you, and I'm the only one who counts ^_^ so it's no problem. And honestly, I'm annoyed by them most of the time too :lol:


Quote (Pootar @ Aug 19 2010 10:58pm)
I happen to have a decent group of friends within my guild and outside of it, just would rather not get them involved in my arguments.
I do understand what you are saying, I just have been attempting to read suggestions and constantly see posts stating "hell no" etc without any adequetly explored reasons.

unsure who deadlysanity is at the moment, looking them up though.


She has been getting a lot of bad rep recently from the haters because she has been a bit vocal about giving out advice before being 100% dialed into the game, so occasionally she gives advice which might not be the best or whatever. But hey, at least she's really trying and is honestly interested in learning. We were all noobs once and I probably did the exact same thing - giving out advice before I really knew what I was talking about.



But anyways, let's try to avoid arguing over nothing, eh? Here's getting back on topic for you:

Quote (Behemoth @ Aug 19 2010 10:53pm)
neat idea, but i don't think it would revitalize life steal - it's just not enough.
life steal is just an add now, and like most adds, it can be great (i'm assuming a bit here), but the setups in which it can shine seem to be very limited
so unless the stat is buffed up a bit i think it should just be ignored; but of course that's the attitude you're combating - perhaps the relevant debate is a factual one, perhaps you should be giving us evidence of your position rather than telling paul to change the game so that such evidence would be more obvious :)


Agreed with this 100%

Would be a cool showy thing or whatever but I can't see it doing anything besides that
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Aug 20 2010 12:37am
Quote (Pootar @ Aug 20 2010 02:11am)
And that shows your depth, your attitude, and your idea of what this game should be all in one.Good job.


No it explains why I divorced your type . You dont shutup , you dont listen and are never wrong ... no mater what ... so no point ....

Quote (NevV @ Aug 20 2010 02:20am)
I like you, and I'm the only one who counts ^_^ so it's no problem. And honestly, I'm annoyed by them most of the time too :lol:


And I have to apologize to you Nev publicly because your weller mage guide was what I followed first . And it helped me a LOT . I respect what you do with new players and unfortunately you get the bad apples .



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Aug 20 2010 12:43am
Quote (ShaiHalud @ Aug 20 2010 06:37am)
No it explains why I divorced your type . You dont shutup , you dont listen and are never wrong ... no mater what ... so no point ....



And I have to apologize to you Nev publicly because your weller mage guide was what I followed first . And it helped me a LOT . I respect what you do with new players and unfortunately you get the bad apples .


Actually I do shut up, I am just choosing not to at this time because backing down from an argument just because you have one person with his buddies against you is something I was taught not to do.
I actually admitted I was wrong to one of your friends, I insulted him when I had no reason to and since he took personal affront to it I apologized to him.
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