d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > d2jsp > Ladder Slasher >
Poll > Scales Vs Plates
Prev12345Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
  Guests cannot view or vote in polls. Please register or login.
Member
Posts: 27,011
Joined: Apr 11 2006
Gold: 0.70
Jan 24 2010 03:03pm
Quote (Djsem @ Jan 25 2010 10:02am)
chains are best overall


pre-1.18 i would have said this

you could get so much more ee for your money on a chain than a plate that you actually ended up with a better average


i'd take a high ee scale now though
Member
Posts: 1,618
Joined: Nov 25 2008
Gold: Locked
Warn: 10%
Jan 24 2010 03:05pm
Quote (Cloudfire @ Jan 24 2010 04:03pm)
pre-1.18 i would have said this

you could get so much more ee for your money on a chain than a plate that you actually ended up with a better average


i'd take a high ee scale now though


Same.
it took me fucking foreverrrr to find a full scale set.
and i sold that 220ee scale for a hefty amount.
Member
Posts: 40,183
Joined: Apr 29 2006
Gold: 20,826.51
Jan 24 2010 03:16pm
Just rambling thoughts...

Hardcore:
Because the initial stat input is based on Vita... for basically every character class and build... scales would be a viable option
Vita = Physical Defense (Thus increased defense)
Dex = Crit Defense (and yes HC places stat points here)
Int = Magical Defense (and the hybrid builds will undoubtedely be better off with scales)

Softcore:
Less points into Vita... all stat points allocated for the specific build...

Hybrids benefit more with Scale
Melee benefit more with Chain / Plate (character class definition)

Unique builds... well... times are changing... and I think either Scale/Chain/Plate will benefit them...
Member
Posts: 13,172
Joined: Apr 19 2005
Gold: 8,929.55
Trader: Trusted
Jan 24 2010 03:19pm
its not really efficient to use a scale if that char has only 5 int (aka a barb).
if you put a decent amount of points into intelligence it makes sense to use a scale, because the int boosts the base defense which is then increased with the ee.

so it always depends on your stat distribution.
vita > int => plate/chain
vita = int => leather/scale
vita < int => robe/padded robe
Member
Posts: 14,331
Joined: Jul 4 2007
Gold: 2,119.70
Jan 24 2010 03:36pm
I wanna say chains/plates are better, did you compare with equal ee?
I see scale wearers tanking better than I can in the cata, but they probably have ridiculous ee
Member
Posts: 1,618
Joined: Nov 25 2008
Gold: Locked
Warn: 10%
Jan 24 2010 03:49pm
Quote (AF_Warren666 @ Jan 24 2010 04:36pm)
I wanna say chains/plates are better, did you compare with equal ee?
I see scale wearers tanking better than I can in the cata, but they probably have ridiculous ee


yes comparable ee when we did maze.
i had lvl 10 100ee scale his was 9x ee plate
Member
Posts: 24,802
Joined: May 24 2006
Gold: 8.00
Jan 24 2010 08:10pm
I prefer chains tbh
They have high physical def and not a horrible amount of magical def.
Seeing as I mostly solo and always put points in int this works out even better.

If I was to use scales on a hybrid, I would end up with out of proportion magical def mostly going unused as there are less casters spawning.

And Riots, you seem to get very defensive of your scales. It's good that you like them, but the others are actually thinking about testing which is better from an unbaised point of view.
You seem to have your mind set already and are looking for ways of proving scales are better.
Member
Posts: 11,743
Joined: Mar 4 2008
Gold: 423.00
Jan 24 2010 08:13pm
Quote (DankeKong @ Jan 24 2010 08:00pm)
Headhunter + Scales = win.


not much els to say realy
Member
Posts: 1,618
Joined: Nov 25 2008
Gold: Locked
Warn: 10%
Jan 24 2010 08:13pm
Quote (Shadow_Nzl @ Jan 24 2010 09:10pm)
I prefer chains tbh
They have high physical def and not a horrible amount of magical def.
Seeing as I mostly solo and always put points in int this works out even better.

If I was to use scales on a hybrid, I would end up with out of proportion magical def mostly going unused as there are less casters spawning.

And Riots, you seem to get very defensive of your scales. It's good that you like them, but the others are actually thinking about testing which is better from an unbaised point of view.
You seem to have your mind set already and are looking for ways of proving scales are better.


No, As you can see i told u i'd like to test up against any plate.
I'm simply stating my position and reaffirming it with my personal experience.
=)
I climbed with both and like scales more than plates =D

Member
Posts: 14,093
Joined: Nov 19 2006
Gold: 27,392.80
Jan 24 2010 08:20pm
Quote (Riots @ Jan 24 2010 09:13pm)
No, As you can see i told u i'd like to test up against any plate.
I'm simply stating my position and reaffirming it with my personal experience.
=)
I climbed with both and like scales more than plates =D


I like armors with good mods, scale/plate/robe/chain/leather ... type is really secondary in most cases.

This post was edited by danomak on Jan 24 2010 08:20pm
Go Back To Ladder Slasher Topic List
Prev12345Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll