Quote (cardoors32 @ Dec 6 2009 06:13pm)

this is a suggestion topic and discussing the suggestion, sorry, but that's not spam
regardless of how you define those people, they're all equally entitled to every drop in a catacomb game if they're in the party

as to who you should play with if your gear sucks - anyone you want to. if you cant get into games with good people, then play with people who arent good, but dont expect to get drops just because you click more often

*one more thing - i dont know if you have ever done this, but the people who have been playing softcore from day 1 and hardcore from day 1 started with nothing and had to make all of their climbs with shitty gear and we turned out alright - theres really no excuse to get bent out of shape over drops




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Quote (przy @ Dec 6 2009 06:09pm)

Drops are for everyone and when unscrupulous players take advantage of the situation, there is a problem.
People have been bitching about drop clickers ever since the no-maze catacomb was introduced. But there was always one constant. The items dropped at the monsters. Not any place you desire. 

The reason the drop box is bad is because it requires zero effort to follow the game of ladder slasher.  A person like myself who does 1,100 average damage at level 55 does not have a liberty to sit there attacking one monster every mob spawn as a guy who does 50 average damage does.  These people are taking advantage of the situation with a drop box placement and reaping the benefit of every users work. Additionally, there is NO ADVANTAGEOUS placement of the drop box for a proactive user except at the BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN.  Any other location blocks user statics, monsters, or vital information.  As a very proactive slasher, my drop box must remain on the bottom of the screen which also disadvantages me as an individual trying to be the most productive player in my group.

At least before, they had to "follow" the monsters to have a chance in hell to drop click. Now all you have to do is mindless click and suck everything up.
This is certainly a problem.

Quote (low-ki @ Dec 6 2009 06:14pm)

i thought you had to attack or you can't pick up a item or am i wrong?

Quote (FloppyWaffles @ Dec 6 2009 09:16pm)

yeah except back then there were things that are now unspawnable that could drop

Quote (przy @ Dec 6 2009 08:09pm)

Drops are for everyone and when unscrupulous players take advantage of the situation, there is a problem.
People have been bitching about drop clickers ever since the no-maze catacomb was introduced. But there was always one constant. The items dropped at the monsters. Not any place you desire.

The reason the drop box is bad is because it requires zero effort to follow the game of ladder slasher. A person like myself who does 1,100 average damage at level 55 does not have a liberty to sit there attacking one monster every mob spawn as a guy who does 50 average damage does. These people are taking advantage of the situation with a drop box placement and reaping the benefit of every users work. Additionally, there is NO ADVANTAGEOUS placement of the drop box for a proactive user except at the BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN. Any other location blocks user statics, monsters, or vital information. As a very proactive slasher, my drop box must remain on the bottom of the screen which also disadvantages me as an individual trying to be the most productive player in my group.

At least before, they had to "follow" the monsters to have a chance in hell to drop click. Now all you have to do is mindless click and suck everything up.
This is certainly a problem.

Quote (cardoors32 @ Dec 6 2009 08:18pm)

thats your rebuttal.... i played this game from the day it was created and i never found an unspawnable item
the fact that they existed doesnt mean they were available to everyone who played, nor does it make up for the increased difficulty in the earlier versions

Quote (cardoors32 @ Dec 6 2009 08:18pm)

thats your rebuttal.... i played this game from the day it was created and i never found an unspawnable item
the fact that they existed doesnt mean they were available to everyone who played, nor does it make up for the increased difficulty in the earlier versions

Quote (FloppyWaffles @ Dec 7 2009 01:24am)

someone with 27 MQ's since day one is making a great defense argument