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Dec 2 2009 05:29pm
You still haven't answered why the ppl who bitch and complain about this don't simply play in Arena. If you are looking to drops, arena is the way to go. If you are looking for MQ's cata's is generally the fastest.
Why can't those who feel their lag prevents them from having a fair chance at items, simply play solo and get 100% of the items?
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Dec 2 2009 05:29pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Dec 2 2009 06:23pm)
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Well then... just make a game and drive the catagroup if you do not want it switched on... bloody simple aye.
If you want to Arena... then go Arena... bloody simple aye
If you do not want to join a group because it has it turned on... then do not join and make your own group... bloody simple aye
If you want to have a shit... then go have a shit... bloody simple aye

I do not see it dividing a small community... look at some of the things that have already been changed, but the community sticks to it... only a select few leave... and because they can not handle the changes... but once again... some of them come back.
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FYI Lag and Packet Transfer Latency are TWO different things...
The server does not lag like people think it does...
It is the Latency of packet transfer from server (to) your computer location and (from) your computer location (to) the server.
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I personally think, that the ONLY thing that splits up the community... is based on the individual.
If that person does not like it and they do not participate... then that is upto them...

It is that way already... some people prefer Arena and does not do Cataruns...
On some ocassions they will aid a fellow guildy and join... but 99% of the time... they won't

I am uncertain if it will cause problems to the current system... and Paul has mentioned in a previous post that he has some updating to do... and the NEW system configurations need adjusting to the old one now... that is why some additions are taking some time to deal with.


I agree with the man above me, and the bolded parts I strongly agree with. Well said.
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Quote (jlhromeo @ Dec 2 2009 05:29pm)
I agree with the man above me, and the bolded parts I strongly agree with. Well said.


Well i disagree with you, and the bolded parts you highlighted are my reason.
Updates DO SPLIT the community, Life Steal for example pushed ppl to cata while some quit. The addition of HC split the community. The new muting changed LS and forced many ppl to quit. Updates do change and split the game.

As for if you don't like the idea, why not play arena? Why the heck don't the ppl that bitch about the way it is play arena?
* Why not make drops dependent on actions instead of luck? I for one am sick of ppl having half the actions I do and why not encourage ppl to keep their actions up?
**Ofc it would be hard to impliment with QD, Heavies and such.. but why not have more effort be rewarded rather than more luck?


This post was edited by xxtmanxx on Dec 2 2009 05:36pm
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Dec 2 2009 05:52pm
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Ok so you're saying, the game is equally fair latency wise, even with US vs Europeans ? You do know, the server is located in the states right? Have you ever tried connecting to a EU server, and done a !ping vs !ping on a US server? (I'm guessing you're from the states). Now this taken into consideration, I dont see how ANYONE can say the current system, is fair, REGARDLESS of you guys getting lagspikes aswell from time to time. I've heard from many Europeans who have had 2-3sec lags, I've experienced it myself many times, on chests etc, I dont even get to see the items, I dont see the driver move around, I just see waves, and their health bar drops instantly, cause it's lags so much, but hey, like you said, it's fair. :)


Why is it, in the many topics currently or within the last 2 weeks where people from europe are complaining about the lag, there are many people from europe saying they are not experiencing this? Yes, I think currently there may be an issue which to what I've read is located in Germany, where there is an issue between their server and the server on jsp. A few weeks ago it wasn't an issue for a lot of them though. So because their server is having some kind of problem(or isn't depending on what you wish to believe) is not a reason to make a change. I find it UNFAIR to share drops in this manner. Drop picking may not be a "skill" but those of us that have the "not a skill" worked to achieve the timing and development of our clicking muscles to get those drops. I find it unfair that someone else should get what I worked for. I find it exactly the same as me working all week long and then having to share my paycheck with someone that didn't work at all. To me it's just plain unfair and wrong.

Now, I've also had games where I didn't see any items from a chest, just instantly there were a lot of remarks of who picked up what. I find that frustrating but not unfair. It happens to me and on the reverse side I've been in games where I got all the items from a chest(or whatever I chose to pick up) because they had lag. It's completely fair, it happens to us all, there is no bias.
Quote (Sazha @ Dec 2 2009 11:05am)
Someone who actually understand how it would work, and see the fact this can be disabled if ppl dont like it, I'm amazed :)

Thanks for the input Cylon, it's appreciated.


I understand what you are getting at perfectly(at least in my mind it is). Just because we disagree does not mean we don't understand, it means we don't agree with it. Turning it off or on isn't a vote for it's favor, the fact that there are so many people at any given level and usually not enough for several teams(depending on time of day) makes it more of a issue of "do you want to level or not?" thing over a drop thing. If you only want to hear(read) that people agree, then please just state that instead of saying "so please if you dont agree, that's fine, but express yourself in a respectful and constructive way"

I told you my reasons for not wanting such an implementation, if you wish for me to expound upon them so you understand more clearly, then I can.
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< FFA.

less QQ get faster at clicking or upgrade your internet to commercial T1 or T3 if you just REALLY need the connection speed to grab good stuff.
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