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Quote (izParagonzi @ Feb 7 2021 03:00am)
Correct, fundamentally that makes sense may appear to be believable.

So, it would also be faster using Maps with +# EPs right? Especially when you don't know how many EP squares are designated in normal catacomb, it is a random amount that could spawn.


Nvm just keep hunting for prof.

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Quote (izParagonzi @ Feb 7 2021 03:00am)
Correct, fundamentally that makes sense may appear to be believable.

So, it would also be faster using Maps with +# EPs right? Especially when you don't know how many EP squares are designated in normal catacomb, it is a random amount that could spawn.


Level 5 maps due to level cap so we can potentially slow exp and get sneaky buff at a lower level, and potentially finish 4 corners earlier in the climb with a smaller map

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Quote (izParagonzi @ Feb 7 2021 12:29am)
I like using it when backtracking large explored areas, works a treat.



This was my original post and I don't believe it because I used /set easy 1 a LOT during Session 4 to 5 Hardcore and commented openly:



And I get trashed openly making a true statement that I don't believe it, but was willing and open to let the OP try it out for himself... how is my statement bad in any way? I made an open-minded comment for him to try it out. True or False?

EDIT: when solo'ing, I want TP before level 50, and a lot of the time before reset, I would get to MQ USING /set easy 1 from level 65+ and still NOT get TP by level 83 or 85 (MQ levels) ... Note: just like most players, I don't like using /set easy 1 because it reduces EPs which give more drop chance of something great.


was funny cause i was soloing last night on warlock at level 29, right after posting my comment

shits and giggles, /set easy 1

had TP spawned within 5 minutes

:rofl:

tell me more please
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Quote (Light_Prince @ Feb 8 2021 03:56am)
Nvm just keep hunting for prof.


Quote (FloppyWaffles @ Feb 8 2021 05:57am)
Level 5 maps due to level cap so we can potentially slow exp and get sneaky buff at a lower level, and potentially finish 4 corners earlier in the climb with a smaller map


Quote (unknownX @ Feb 8 2021 08:05am)
was funny cause i was soloing last night on warlock at level 29, right after posting my comment

shits and giggles, /set easy 1

had TP spawned within 5 minutes

:rofl:

tell me more please


Here is a true fact that NONE of you can deny unless Paul changed coding:

"In a FULL group that has three(3) Objectives activated (excl Maze / 4 corners) can complete a fully explored catacomb and NOT even get one(1) Objective done."

Has NOTHING to do with how many EP spawns at all, you can clear multiple catacombs and NOT encounter Hack the Horde while you use /set easy 0.

Tell me differently... who are liars now... /set easy 1 does NOT make it faster to spawn Treasure pest, it ONLY seems that way.

3 or 4 times out of my Bufcore climbs (1/7 MQ) attempts and definitely using /set easy 1... so by all you lot saying it does, I should have had gotten it every time because I used /set easy 1.

Objectives are like everything else when you create or enter a catacomb, it is random. Like TDs / Enigma Totems / Spins / Warm lights / EPs & Well.

OH well, believe what you want, it is not like many people explore from 1 - MQ nowadays... stuck on whistling. As for solo'ers, the TP & /set easy 1 is similar to saying that you will find Hack the Horde faster using /set easy 0, and Hack the Horde are just normal monsters that you encounter 80% of the time in your catacomb, and yet you can clear catas and still NOT get it completed.

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Quote (izParagonzi @ Feb 7 2021 03:58pm)
Here is a true fact that NONE of you can deny unless Paul changed coding:

"In a FULL group that has three(3) Objectives activated (excl Maze / 4 corners) can complete a fully explored catacomb and NOT even get one(1) Objective done."

Has NOTHING to do with how many EP spawns at all, you can clear multiple catacombs and NOT encounter Hack the Horde while you use /set easy 0.

Tell me differently... who are liars now... /set easy 1 does NOT make it faster to spawn Treasure pest, it ONLY seems that way.

3 or 4 times out of my Bufcore climbs (1/7 MQ) attempts and definitely using /set easy 1... so by all you lot saying it does, I should have had gotten it every time because I used /set easy 1.

Objectives are like everything else when you create or enter a catacomb, it is random. Like TDs / Enigma Totems / Spins / Warm lights / EPs & Well.

OH well, believe what you want, it is not like many people explore from 1 - MQ nowadays... stuck on whistling. As for solo'ers, the TP & /set easy 1 is similar to saying that you will find Hack the Horde faster using /set easy 0, and Hack the Horde are just normal monsters that you encounter 80% of the time in your catacomb, and yet you can clear catas and still NOT get it completed.


Why are you so angry. Like all the time. Stop crying and trying to fight people. The things we do work for us consistently, and you want to add a 15 level randomizer for whistlers, while you claim not to care about gps. Just do your thing and quit crying about everyone else lol
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Quote (FloppyWaffles @ Feb 8 2021 10:38am)
Why are you so angry. Like all the time. Stop crying and trying to fight people. The things we do work for us consistently, and you want to add a 15 level randomizer for whistlers, while you claim not to care about gps. Just do your thing and quit crying about everyone else lol


:rofl: mao Was going with a Wall of Text but minimized... start at my initial post & first quoted. I will defend and now pointing out facts that objectives are random and can NOT be influenced by using /set easy 1 for Treasure Pest.

3 of my mules show that objectives are random: iz4 (lvl34), iz5 (lvl32) and iz6 (lvl25) ... all using /set easy 0:

iz 4 = Explore the Maze / A Pinch of Evil / Bits and Pieces / Hack the Horde
... No TP
iz 5 = Explore the Maze / Bits and Pieces / Hack the Horde / Treasure Pest
... No Pinch
iz 6 = Explore the Maze / A Pinch of Evil / Bits and Pieces
... No Hack or TP (maybe in the next 7 levels or catacomb)

Anyone can check my mules, they all fully explore using /set easy 0.
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 7 Feb 2021 16:00)
:rofl: mao Was going with a Wall of Text but minimized... start at my initial post & first quoted. I will defend and now pointing out facts that objectives are random and can NOT be influenced by using /set easy 1 for Treasure Pest.

3 of my mules show that objectives are random: iz4 (lvl34), iz5 (lvl32) and iz6 (lvl25) ... all using /set easy 0:

iz 4 = Explore the Maze / A Pinch of Evil / Bits and Pieces / Hack the Horde
... No TP
iz 5 = Explore the Maze / Bits and Pieces / Hack the Horde / Treasure Pest
... No Pinch
iz 6 = Explore the Maze / A Pinch of Evil / Bits and Pieces
... No Hack or TP (maybe in the next 7 levels or catacomb)

Anyone can check my mules, they all fully explore using /set easy 0.


I don't know, I've done countless MM runs, countless solo runs.

Set /set easy 1 makes it easier to find single EP objectives, sneaky and pest alike.

I can quite literally force just about any objective to spawn that I choose as long as I meet the group size requirement.

But what would I know, your account has less kills than either of my mains combined, so I must be wrong here.
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 7 Feb 2021 18:00)
:rofl: mao Was going with a Wall of Text but minimized... start at my initial post & first quoted. I will defend and now pointing out facts that objectives are random and can NOT be influenced by using /set easy 1 for Treasure Pest.

3 of my mules show that objectives are random: iz4 (lvl34), iz5 (lvl32) and iz6 (lvl25) ... all using /set easy 0:

iz 4 = Explore the Maze / A Pinch of Evil / Bits and Pieces / Hack the Horde
... No TP
iz 5 = Explore the Maze / Bits and Pieces / Hack the Horde / Treasure Pest
... No Pinch
iz 6 = Explore the Maze / A Pinch of Evil / Bits and Pieces
... No Hack or TP (maybe in the next 7 levels or catacomb)

Anyone can check my mules, they all fully explore using /set easy 0.


I don't think you understand how probability works

Quote (Ryanrules @ 7 Feb 2021 18:11)
But what would I know, your account has less kills than either of my mains combined, so I must be wrong here.


Don't forget about all his deleted and dead charachters ^_^

This post was edited by schmoogalaboo on Feb 7 2021 05:21pm
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Quote (schmoogalaboo @ Feb 8 2021 12:19pm)
I don't think you understand how probability works

Don't forget about all his deleted and dead charachters ^_^


Thanks for pointing out deleted SC characters and dead deleted HC characters.

Probability: I accept that it appears that way fundamentally. Now the question is this;
"Are Objectives tied to the Monster types that spawn in your catacomb OR treated like a Well, TD, Enigmatic Totem etc?"

We all know for a fact in a "Full explore / full group, that some catacombs can be cleared and don't complete a single Objective with 3 active!". Has nothing to do with the Monster types that spawned in that catacomb, unless it is Complete Maze or Four Corners.

The probability using /set easy 0 to increase the chances of getting Pinch (lvl6+ req) should be higher. As you can see with iz4 & iz5, this is NOT the case, 1 has pinch, other doesn't, but has Treasure Pest (lvl13+ req), and only two(2) level difference.

Hack the Horde (lvl 10+ req) probability should be hugely increased, and yet iz6 @ level 25 hasn't completed it after 15 level gain & x# catacombs cleared.

End note: It appears it works that way... I thought it did, but my Bufcore character proved it false. 3 or 4 times got TP out of 7 MQs (1/7 attempts)


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Quote (izParagonzi @ 7 Feb 2021 18:01)
Thanks for pointing out deleted SC characters and dead deleted HC characters.

Probability: I accept that it appears that way fundamentally. Now the question is this;
"Are Objectives tied to the Monster types that spawn in your catacomb OR treated like a Well, TD, Enigmatic Totem etc?"

We all know for a fact in a "Full explore / full group, that some catacombs can be cleared and don't complete a single Objective with 3 active!". Has nothing to do with the Monster types that spawned in that catacomb, unless it is Complete Maze or Four Corners.

The probability using /set easy 0 to increase the chances of getting Pinch (lvl6+ req) should be higher. As you can see with iz4 & iz5, this is NOT the case, 1 has pinch, other doesn't, but has Treasure Pest (lvl13+ req), and only two(2) level difference.

Hack the Horde (lvl 10+ req) probability should be hugely increased, and yet iz6 @ level 25 hasn't completed it after 15 level gain & x# catacombs cleared.

End note: It appears it works that way... I thought it did, but my Bufcore character proved it false. 3 or 4 times got TP out of 7 MQs (1/7 attempts)


For this one, set easy 0 is the ONLY way to get it soloing. You won't spawn Pinch (because it requires 3+EPs) without set easy 0

Not sure if Hack the Horde needs it or not, but I know I usually get it with set easy 0 active.

As for 7 attempts using what I assume is set easy 1, do you complete every single maze/map on that character or do you reset when you get a crap spawn?

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