34 dex is not enough. Try again with 80 dex and don't even bother with crit until you tested that. I'll be surprised if you don't get quite some crit out of that

Crit is kinda trash if wrong stat is very low.

He had 30dex from charm and 34 from weapon and did not crit at all

I actually had over 100dex (from gear alone)

34dex on lvl 35 warhammer
level 35 armor with 37str / 38dex
level 1 charm 45str / 30dex +2crit

I crit once every 15-20 hits or so with that ^^


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Also when I was using clubs I had Matthias gear + glyphs and had ~17-20 crit on me and still didnt really crit much at all ~once per 13-15 with that iirc (it's quite some time ago i tested that out)

This post was edited by NR1 on Oct 2 2020 03:32am

I think Paul changed something. I need to do more testing but I'm also not getting crits like before with mass wrong stat... Thanks for bringing this to my attention!

This post was edited by BWConformity on Oct 2 2020 09:11am

Okay so, I did a little informal testing just now (but ofc will need more testing and dig up my old crit testing topic if I really want to see if something has changed). I was testing crit rate on club and warhammer with 60 str / 106 dex / 5 crit and got a crit rate of ~16%, with 86 str / 101 dex / 0 crit and got a crit rate of ~9%, with 104 str / 46 dex / 5 crit and got a crit rate of ~6%. This falls approximately in line with my previous testing. However, there was a difference that you might expect to hear from someone like Rex who might chime in at any moment now...

There were multiple stretches of no crits for well over 40 attacks, despite an overall crit rate of 16% in the first test, and 9% in the 2nd test. No such events occurred while doing the 3rd test which ended up at 6%...

Okay so what's going on here...?

I think the random number generator has either changed or has become more patchy in distribution of events. Obviously it's a computer-generated approximation of random numbers, since a true random number generator cannot exist... In the past while playing LS, events were always patchy (non-independent) but in my experience, crit events were not this non-random over such a long sequence of events. Maybe it just seems like it since before I tested over weeks and this time I'm testing over a couple of hours... Anyway, if you have any more info from your test, Nic, I wanna know more details.

This post was edited by BWConformity on Oct 2 2020 10:36am

I use crit on a few of my items with clubs, defo get the effect with crit. Tried using dex before and it did basically nothing.

I use these items:


Mythical mithril chain mail
Level Req: 25
Physical Defense: 49 to 124
Magical Defense: 0 to 38

+108% Enhanced Effect
+14 Strength
+7 Critical Strike
-1% Mana Consumption
+1% Power Shot

Angelic lightning IX
Level Req: 30
Spell Damage: 10 to 103
Mana Cost: 69

+42 Strength
+1 Critical Strike
+1% Critical Flux
+1 Jubilance

Mythical wind VIII
Level Req: 25
Spell Damage: 18 to 82
Mana Cost: 61

+35 Strength
+9 Intelligence
+2 Critical Strike
+1 to 8 Mana per Kill
+1% Mind Numb

the +7 crit strike seems to be an extremely solid 7% increased chance i suggest i crit 10% of the time whilst using the charm/armor combo. I use this set regularly and would have noticed it not critting.

I still believe +critical strike your current crit chance + x critical strike modifier = % chance to crit.

Mythical tintitanium plate mail
Level Req: 50
Physical Defense: 116 to 348
Magical Defense: 0 to 44

+198% Enhanced Effect
+6 Critical Strike
+1 to 2 Life per Attack
+1% Armor Pierce
+15% Heal Mastery

Also get further tests from that and it does work

This post was edited by Bigheaded on Oct 2 2020 10:50am

For my own curiosity's sake, how much dex did you add and where was your starting point. Wrong stat definitely started to have diminishing returns (I believe its effectiveness started dropping off rapidly around 80 or so. Also, I don't recall doing many tests with very low values either, so mainly where I was seeing a big effect of adding wrong stat from around 40 - 50 until around 70 - 80).

~45 dex. was a while back and i doubt i tested for more than 1 climb which tbh isn't enough testing to give any form of valid result. Just felt really bad so i didn't do it again lol.

So like barbarian 25 -> 45 dex? Or 25 - 70 dex? I mean statting those dex instead of str on club when you don't already have a massive amount of str is definitely really bad... but the crit chance should still have gone up noticeably, unless I'm not understanding right.

used a dex charm instead of strength, so -52 strength +45 dex compared to my usual setup. Might have moved but ye, obviously damage is nowhere near.