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Jul 27 2020 07:06pm
Quote (legirotto @ 27 Jul 2020 14:33)
So all feeders should have same quality.

Then Samurai should be better than all feeders.

Of course, Paladin should be better than Samurai.

All the classes need rework then?

Voted No


They actually kinda do scale this way.

Sammy > Feeder

Pally is not better than Sammy in some situations but used in certain ways it is.

Ninja > Monk > Pally

Warlock is best class in game right now

Headhunter is best melee class in game...

Then you have a significantly weaker Alchemist. I do believe it needs a rework (mostly due to wasted stats)
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Jul 27 2020 07:10pm
I think monk > ninja
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Jul 27 2020 07:12pm
Quote (Ryanrules @ Jul 28 2020 01:06pm)
They actually kinda do scale this way.

Sammy > Feeder

Pally is not better than Sammy in some situations but used in certain ways it is.

Ninja > Monk > Pally

Warlock is best class in game right now

Headhunter is best melee class in game...

Then you have a significantly weaker Alchemist. I do believe it needs a rework (mostly due to wasted stats)


Alchemist gets more base stat points than a Warlock, thus in that fact it is better... the issue is simple, just have the same base stats as a Warlock and Add in the extra 5 base starting stats for the Alchemist to either Vitality or Intelligence (5 points).

Now the other option is for those extra 5 points to be allocated by the user (keeping base stats the same as a Warlock of course).

The ONLY real reason why a Warlock is way stronger is because it has access to equipping weapons... that is all it is.
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Jul 27 2020 07:16pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ 28 Jul 2020 03:12)
Alchemist gets more base stat points than a Warlock, thus in that fact it is better... the issue is simple, just have the same base stats as a Warlock and Add in the extra 5 base starting stats for the Alchemist to either Vitality or Intelligence (5 points).

Now the other option is for those extra 5 points to be allocated by the user (keeping base stats the same as a Warlock of course).

The ONLY real reason why a Warlock is way stronger is because it has access to equipping weapons... that is all it is.



So just remove 30 points from dex on alch and put 20 on vit and 10 on int, that way the alch “has” a 45 int weapon equipped all the time and doesn’t have to stat that much vit

Would still be a weaker warlock but a bit better 🤷🏻‍♂️

This post was edited by Keo on Jul 27 2020 07:30pm
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Jul 27 2020 07:16pm
Quote (ToughGuy_TJ @ Jul 27 2020 06:10pm)
I think monk > ninja



Yeah agreed especially if we’re talking exploring and/or soloing

Edit: to stay on the original topic, haven’t had an alchemist before but voted yes - I think the melee stats should be Taken away and just given more int and vit

This post was edited by Underrated on Jul 27 2020 07:19pm
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Jul 27 2020 07:22pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ 27 Jul 2020 18:12)
Alchemist gets more base stat points than a Warlock, thus in that fact it is better... the issue is simple, just have the same base stats as a Warlock and Add in the extra 5 base starting stats for the Alchemist to either Vitality or Intelligence (5 points).

Now the other option is for those extra 5 points to be allocated by the user (keeping base stats the same as a Warlock of course).

The ONLY real reason why a Warlock is way stronger is because it has access to equipping weapons... that is all it is.


Alchemist Starting Int - 110 / starting Vit - 15

Warlock Starting Int - 75 (-35) / starting Vit - 35 (+20)

So a swing of 15 points between the main stats that are focused on casters.

You add the cap of 20 starting stat points, 20 will go into vitality on an alchemist but does not need to go into warlock.

So with that you have -15 Int between the two casters.

That means a max T3 staff will put you to the same int as an Alchemist.

To say an Alchemist is better than Warlock is ridiculous. Between the starting skills, starting stats and the ability to use a weapon, Warlock is better in every way period, not just it's access to a weapon.

The fact that an Alchemist has 10str/40dex when it can't equipt a weapon seems to be the biggest issue with it currently.

But who am I kidding, you're clearly an Alchemist expert.
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Jul 27 2020 09:49pm
Maybe it’s just me but anyone that is capable of getting all the way to alchemist more than likely has godly enough gear to to do numerous mq runs until they reset the ladder or someone else does!

I’ve never seen anyone get to alchemist and say welp I can’t do anything with this character so I guess I’ll give up....
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Jul 27 2020 09:51pm
Quote (CARTRACK @ Jul 27 2020 11:49pm)
Maybe it’s just me but anyone that is capable of getting all the way to alchemist more than likely has godly enough gear to to do numerous mq runs until they reset the ladder or someone else does!

I’ve never seen anyone get to alchemist and say welp I can’t do anything with this character so I guess I’ll give up....


Go look at 75% of hardcore alchemists
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Jul 27 2020 10:04pm
Quote (Pick @ Jul 27 2020 08:51pm)
Go look at 75% of hardcore alchemists



Pretty sure they quit for other reasons but I could be wrong.....
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Jul 27 2020 10:17pm
Quote (CARTRACK @ Jul 28 2020 12:04am)
Pretty sure they quit for other reasons but I could be wrong.....


Its unsafe to play a solo caster lvl 81+ on any MD for hc. even at 100 vita, you get double stun you're dead

This post was edited by ddevin on Jul 27 2020 10:17pm
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