Quote (TiM @ Apr 30 2020 01:45pm)

I at least got your point about this suggestion but I highly doubt about the sense at all.
I would always be happy to see new players on there who are not giving up after a few minutes already.
Im also always glad to help out new ones if it comes to donating starter items (but this ended up like you have described it most of the times)

Everyone of us had to do this step to get into that game at some point. This game requires will and patience but that’s where it already ends again as most of them doesn’t have that.

LS is not a game to make fg with in the beginning.

Earlier days it was simply a little easier to get into ladder slasher as there had been a lot of guilds playing this game and people either saw the „big“ community or just simple got told by friends to go for it.

Quote (izParagonzi @ Apr 30 2020 04:41pm)

Well put and thanks (not very many people can see past my posts, or should I say comprehend it :P )

Other than myself, there were "Many" other players that made "Competition(s)" posts to help out the community or even new players to the game. Now after a 2 year break, and even beforehand, there has been NOTHING posted in the sense of competitions or any threads helping out either the community or new players. This is when you know that the changes made to game has basically made it pointless to play outside of the people that are die hard fans or don't want to give up the items they collected for the years they put into collecting them.

I want to see if we can BRING in new blood to the game without ruining it more by changes. If we bring in level 60+ MQ items, only the people with gear will profit from it (not a new player), if we make adjustments to the mods on gear, again people that currently have them profit, so how do we encourage new players to the game?

I don't think many of the people comprehend this, we need more players to a great game, how do we start? I would have thought it would be good to give a new player a heads up on getting some crap gear without asking for a hand out from others or people just donating because they know that 5 or 10 fg can be made back just from selling off "shrine / skiller" items @ 1fg each.

Quite honestly, outside of your post and some others, most of the negativity from replies and votes are from people that don't quite understand how this could benefit themselves and the game as a whole. I do have to applaud people trying to be a TTim with posts and fail comprehensibly, never thought helping the community could be construed as a "cry topic" :roflmao:

Well, 19 of the so called 20-50 current players have basically voted. Let us see the end results.

Quote (Plaguefear @ Apr 30 2020 06:46pm)

The way to bring new players in is to increase drop rates, if you can self find gear and make fg the game will thrive.

Quote (izParagonzi @ May 6 2020 08:40pm)

This is Partially correct because the Drop Rate HAS increased to prior updates. There are a few changes that has made the game extensively easier on top of that.

#1 Whistle (in the past drivers would just rotate on the spot). Whistle means a Wave of monsters appears INSTANTLY in comparison to the old "Rotate" method.
#2 Towning during a group climb to shrine (previously you could not do this). Personally, this should ONLY apply to solo climbs including "Regen"
#3 Drop Rate % of higher level classes killing in group helping out lower level characters. Basically, higher level Character kills, & drop % remains & Tier lvl is based on lowest level character in group.

#4 Basically there are a lot alternatives for making the game more enticing to new players, maybe higher level character receives same experience (-3 or 5%) of the lowest level character in group.

Positives, we already have higher Drop Rate, but also Events. Higher character level a group should not be at a major disadvantage when helping others, even in completing MM when they have not completed it?

Note: basically rambling, tl;dr... all good, at least I can say it is a :bouncy:

Quote (Plaguefear @ May 6 2020 10:55pm)

This still doesn't fix the issue that most of the gear is in the hands of hoarders/veterans who use them and next to no items enter the market, its extremely hard to get into ls simply because decent gear is so rare.
There is far more iso threads than selling threads, even the best equipped players are still trying to improve their sets and next to no new items enter the game.
If just 15 new players entered the game right now there would not even be close to enough items available to gear them.
Drop rates need to rise or the masteries need to go so that ee actually drops again.
Ls was at its peak when you could actually play it without fg investment and have a reasonable expectation of finding usable gear.
A good sword set 3 years ago was 10k, now a good sword set is 50k.

Quote (Plaguefear @ May 7 2020 02:51am)

Dunno, I found more 100+ ee items in my first month playing than in the last 3 years combined.
I found four in one day back in 2008.